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Cybertruck Owners Are Reporting Barely 200 Miles Per Charge (jalopnik.com)
submitted 8 months ago by dragontamer@lemmy.world to c/realtesla@lemmy.world
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More terrible range estimates incoming.

Jalopnik is mostly just quoting stuff from another article that was quoting forum posts. So its basically hearsay at this point. Still, its further evidence that Cybertruck's range is utter crap (and these original posts seem legitimate, as they originate from pro-Tesla sites).

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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Ladies and gentlemen, the tech bro Tesla defender has logged on.

At this point, I’d call this a astroturfer brigade!

Evidently, it’s easier to create bot accounts on kbin.social.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928563/tesla-doj-ev-range-exaggerate-investigation

https://slate.com/technology/2023/07/tesla-range-complaints-deception-electric-vehicles-battery-size.html

https://electrek.co/2023/07/27/tesla-vastly-overstates-its-vehicles-range-report-states/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2023/07/27/tesla-exaggerated-its-cars-driving-range-and-canceled-service-appointments-if-drivers-complained-report-says/

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/tesla-exaggerated-ev-range-so-much-that-drivers-thought-cars-were-broken/

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-range-exaggeration-lawsuit-breakdown/

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You’re a fucking moron.

  1. Tesla suck

  2. I have like 40,000 karma and thousands of posts over months, but sure I’m a Tesla bot account who was waiting for this moment to say Tesla is shit. You got me.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

As a moderator:

  • This post was reported, so I'll talk about it here.

  • I recognize that you've been called a bot, and therefore you feel the need to "hit back". That's fine. But note that this discussion is getting too heated now and we need to take a step back and have a breather.

  • Further discussion in this topic will be more tightly moderated.

@demesisx@infosec.pub: Please don't call other users bots unnecessarily. I think we're all in agreement with the facts here. Tesla EVs can theoretically change their range with software updates, but such changes remain small and relatively unsubstantial (~5% range). Tempers have gotten testy here somehow. In my experience, its important for me to nuke discussions from orbit to stop them at this point. Please do not continue upon this insulting-path. I'm deleting many replies in this topic now to help calm things down.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please address the comment you're applying to, because this reads a lot like you don't actually have a response to it.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There's some kind of misunderstanding between you and @eltimablo. I've removed both of your posts / insult-fest from below. Please be nicer.

As far as I can tell, everyone agrees that Tesla regularly lies about range estimates. But also EV firmware updates can change ranges (though only through small amounts: like 5% due to various software optimizations and the like). I think the disagreement between the two of you was revolving on how much this matters. But the bulk of both of your points seemed to be agreed upon, so I'm confused why the discussion got out of hand.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 1 points 8 months ago

Thanks. It was such a dumb argument.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How does any of this relate to "software updates can improve EV range" in any way whatsoever? In no way have I suggested that Tesla didn't lie about their ranges.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a moderator: I'm cutting off the discussion from here. Below are a bunch of stupid insults between the two users above. I get that tempers can get heated at times, but that doesn't mean the insult-stream deserves to stay unremoved.

[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Other guy is butts