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Manifest v3 is Worse than I Thought (tube.kockatoo.org)

submitted 9 months ago by ozoned@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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A great video about the Manifest v3 and how Google is trying to make you view ads.

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[–] driveway@lemmy.zip 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Give me some of that closed source browser goodness, yes. Vivaldi and Chrome are the same thing from a privacy perspective precisely because you cannot verify that they're not.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Although you could take into account what the makers are telling you. You have to trust someone, and at least to my knowledge, Google fails and it's all over the news, Vivaldi has not. It's not like I can validate the Firefox source either, I'm just trusting the website I download it from, or more likely my distro packaging. And people do look at call outs browsers make etc.

[–] driveway@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Although you could take into account what the makers are telling you.

Google claims Chrome is private too.

all over the news, Vivaldi has not

Becauae not many gives a fuck about Vivaldi enough to reverse engineer it

not like I can validate the Firefox source either

You don't have to. Thousand of people who know what they're doing does.

just trusting the website I download it from, or more likely my distro packaging

This is a separate security, not privacy, issue resolved by trust chain model of distro packaging.

[–] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have to. Thousand of people who know what they’re doing does. But why would I trust any of them? I'm pointing out you have to choose who you trust, and from the history with the makers of Vivaldi, I trust them. Same as I don't trust Google given their history.

Of course, I'm screwed anyway because there's not reasonable competition in the phone space, and I have to use Microsoft products for work, and... {insert a dozen more things here}. Given all that, I'd like the browser that works better for me.

[–] driveway@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago

that works better for me. sure, I could not care less what browsers others use.

Trusting a company to do right by you (for unknown reasons) vs. trusting thousands of independent researchers who have no incentive to wrong you. Though pick, I guess.