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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I have to ask, why are we even working so fucking hard??

What has all of this hard work we've been doing accomplished? Our infrastructure is failing. We're throwing food away. We are wasteful and killing the environment. What has 'hard work as a virtue' gotten us?

Can't we just live our lives??

[–] Twelve20two 12 points 8 months ago

It's not about us. It's all for our glorious owner class and keeping the dream/lie goingπŸ™ƒ

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Check the distribution of wealth in your country and around the world, that's where the fruits of our work end up. Also just throw-away or downright destructive labor, like making shirts that turn into garbage after one month, or drugs and entertainment products that make people addicted instead of healthy and happy.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I have to ask, why are we even working so fucking hard??

For 99.99% of the history of our species, we either worked 12+ hours every day including weekends or we literally starved to death. And at times, people starved to death even though they worked that much, because the system stole what they produced.

Dude, I cannot claim to know exactly what you do day-to-day, but generally speaking we are not working hard in 2024.

[–] whoelectroplateuntil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Having studied the history of work, this is one of those things that sounds super smart, but is actually half-baked nonsense. As hard and crappy as medieval life was, you still work twice as many days in a year as a medieval peasant did. It gets worse the more societies and ways of life you study.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So we should work hard because our ancestors worked hard?

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We should work hard studying so our reading comprehension is better

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Oh sorry, I'm suppose to automatically give credence to the, "the work you do is insignificant compared to our ape ancestors" guy because he wrote it in a post. Bite me.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No. I'm in fact with you on the notion that we should work (as in labor) as little as possible. I think I just disagree with you on how much "as possible" is right now, and what is the best route to that future.

I think automation should eventually lead to a place where no human is doing low- or mid-skill labor. But I have no idea what we'll do to the people who are unable to do anything else. Perhaps they'll thrive, but it also looks like they might just turn into zombies. That's what happens to many people in scandinavic countries, where people practically can just stop working and live off welfare.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de -2 points 8 months ago

LMAO only a commie would downvote this.