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Is the cheating in LoL that bad from somebody who regularly plays at least middle level ranked games? I am very glad to have it for Valorant compared to the mess Counter-Strike is in. Kernel level anti-cheats are a must nowadays to lift the barrier to entry which excludes quite a bunch of cheaters.
cheaters control the hardware, there will always be workarounds and cheaters will end up cheating anyway. the financial incentive is there: cheaters pay good money and even subscriptions for cheats.
legitimate players on the other hand get a slower game, invasive and insecure anticheat, and is more limited otherwise (eg. linux cant play lol anymore, etc)
Do you know how clean Valorant is to play compared to Counter-Strike? Definitely worth it. Shooters just don't work anymore without kernel level anti-cheat. The demand is real that even third party add-ons are used to play with them, e. g. Face It for Counter-Strike. It doesn't stop all cheats and never will, but makes cheating expensive enough to exclude many.
The famous Escape from Tarkov Wiggle video should put it into perspective.
The Linux - FOSS user group of Lemmy is obviously mad, but that is the new reality.
no because it doesnt run on my machine and i dont want riot poking around my computer but i dont remember seeing a cheater in csgo in a loong time. i havent played cs in a while, but kernel level anticheat will eventually be cracked if it isnt already, it is inevitable.
Yeah no thanks I don't think companies should hand out rootkits to unsuspecting users.
Of course this is capitalist laziness that will envelop the entire proprietary games industry, the only way to kick out cheaters is better net code and actually scaled moderation, but those things cost money and maintnence (as well as dedicated playerbase).
To think otherwise is to boot lick these multi-million dollar corporations.
What a terrible, uneducated comment. The anti-cheat solutions cost developers tons of money. Better netcode to disable wall hacking? Do you just randomly create arguments for your point? There is already as much engine and netcode obfuscation as feasible, strategy games render only few units into the fog of war. You need first a big enough barrier before you collapse the labour intensive moderation which can yield false positives.
Something something capitalism bad.
Whatever you say, at least I'm not the one advocating for people to install spyware from any Tom, Dick and Harry that claims it will "fix cheating"
The other solution is to simply not play those games. It's bad enough that the game itself is nonfree, but if it has DRM/relies on a nonfree network service then it should be ostracized.
But those things require having a spine, so I doubt you'd like them.
It is not a claim, it is a fact the cheating hurdle is higher. You clearly are not the target demographic, not affected by cheats and not interested, so you really should not tell others what to do with their hobbies.
$40 ain't much of a barrier to entry
Counter-Strike 2 cheats run for $10 per month and Valorant is not just higher priced but sometimes listed as Out of Stock, so I guess certain providers got striked down.