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Original title: Tens of thousands pack into a protest in Hamburg against Germany’s far right

Edit: The protest was ended early because the location was too small for that many people, raising concerns that e.g. paramedics couldn't quickly reach people in the centre of the crowd in case of a medical emergency.
Originally, the protest was supposed to take place in front of the town hall and not at the Jungfernstieg Boulevard, but the far right Alternative for Germany party had called on short notice for a meeting of the state legislature in the town hall. During such a meeting, protests are banned within the vicinity of it for security reasons.

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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Every time there's a nazi rally, this many people need to show up to it. Until the nazis realize they're heavily outnumbered by people that know the nazis want to kill, torture, and rob them all. No matter where they go. Every single time. Until they don't come out anymore. Nazis don't want to get along. They want to rob, torture, and kill you, your family, and everyone you've ever known.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And the problem is that they vastly over evaluate their numbers, ex: the idiots that occupied Parliament Hill in Canada that say they were 2 millions when that's the population of the whole region and when looking at drone footage of the busiest days they were max 5 to 10k.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

5 to 10 k is still too much for my comfort.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, a fundamental problem in the German state is how many fascists are simply embedded within the security state.

A German interior ministry report says a three-year-long review found 327 employees linked to right-wing extremism.

What the Germans are dealing with is a wide-spread network of sleeper cells and fascist sympathizers who present as liberal on paper while endorsing far-right policies in disguise. Everything from the crack down on migrants in the name of religious liberty, the shuttering of nuclear power plants to the benefit of the fossil fuel industry, and the state-led privatization of housing and banking and mass media has congealed the German state into increasingly fascist forms.

Germany is playing a big game of Secret Hitler, and it won't be much longer until some new Hindenburg is handing the reins over to a Millennial Era ultra-nationalist in the name of economic growth and domestic business interests. Same shit happened in Brazil under Bolsonaro not long ago. And Turkey with Erdogan. Same thing is happening in Argentina, Italy, and Hungary.

Protests in the streets are great. But... at some point the goal is to be in a position of power, not simply banging at the gates from the outside.

I'm worried that there's a fixation on the clowns and chuds doing hate parades and an ignorance of the folks already behind a desk who are tearing out the wiring of German democracy.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What the Germans are dealing with is a wide-spread network of sleeper cells and fascist sympathizers who present as liberal on paper while endorsing far-right policies in disguise.

So, typical establishment liberals?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Just another day in Western Demonocracy.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is why the media is failing us. Trumps words mean nothing to me. Show us his policy. Show us the GOPs voting records. Not entertaining enough???? Get fucked, I hate you infotainment assholes.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we can compromise with them and only rob, torture and kill a little bit.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mmhmm! Found the centrist. 🧐

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Once they get rid of the people they don't like they'll stop. There is definitely no situation where they come after me or the people closest to me.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe we could appease them somehow. What's Poland up to these days