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[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 87 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don't even do NG+ in these huge games, but now I'm going to skip this one on principle, even though I do like the series. Nope, not going to allow a company to treat me this way.

There will of course be a lot of people who bend over and take it (or even defend it), but I'd rather replay an older title than encourage this shit.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. NG+ doesn't add any content, it just gives you an alternate way to explore the content you missed.

I'd pay for an expansion, online access, and maybe additional characters (i.e. different play style in existing content), but not NG+.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It depends on the game. Japanese devs are notorious for adding new content in NG+ runs. A good example is Armored Core 6 where you can still get new content up to NG++ and the one that takes this to an extreme is Nier Automata where the meat of the game is the NG+ runs.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Both of those games charging for their NG+ content would be like charging for on-disc "DLC".

Nier especially, if the base game only came with the first run, that would be like a paid demo of the real game.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Kinda like MGSV: Ground Zeroes?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, there is that. I haven't finished Nier: Automata yet, but that was certainly true for Nier: Replicant. But at least for the Nier series (I have no experience with AC), I honestly don't consider those to be NG+, but instead the actual intended storyline. At least with Nier: Replicant, it seemed quite clear there was more to the story and that continuing is what you were expected to do. The same goes for Ys: Origin, where you only get the "true" ending after finishing it the third time (well, I think you can skip one of the characters, but you need the third character's ending). That's not NG+, but it's similar.

The Yakuza series, however, doesn't work that way, at least for the games I've played. They basically just work as I described, you can play the campaign again, skipping some parts, and the intent is to go finish all of the side content you missed the first time through. Some achievements are locked behind choices IIRC (i.e. experience both consequences), but that's it.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 10 months ago

Thats not really NG+ then, thats just the base game.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Same. I liked Like a Dragon. I don't do NG+ almost ever.

But fuck them hard for this horseshit.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Hope you didn't buy the other ones that did this, it's not the first one.

Don't encourage it by simply not buying the dlc. It's easy. You obviously don't notice it.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is why I rent games. I pay a subscription to an online site and they post games, meaning that Sega isn't getting my money to do shit like that. The base game is £70 and it's 85 quid for the edition with NG+ which is honestly insane.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

This is why I pirate games.