this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2024
100 points (64.9% liked)

linuxmemes

21621 readers
481 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.

    founded 2 years ago
    MODERATORS
     

    First screenshot is from here.

    Second screenshot is from me updating an Ubuntu 22.04 LTS system today.

    Post title is from https://web.archive.org/web/20130223104643/https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu-name.html via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_philosophy

    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    Even though this has been explained many times since the whole hullabaloo, I'll assume you're genuinely unaware and/or perhaps got rage-farmed by someone else's meme. The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn't changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro. There is net new support by Canonical that covers community-supported packages too which is available with Ubuntu Pro subscription. Therefore Canonical hasn't removed any existing, previously free security support. In addition, this newly added security support is available for free for up to 5 machines and it lasts for 10 years.

    More info here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042

    [–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    As a sysadmin that dealt with IBM "helping" CentOS into an early grave, I refuse to give canonical or any for-profit corporation the benefit of the doubt here. After seeing how many products start out free and move towards paid or ad supported models once they think they can get away with it, I doubt this is done out of goodwill, either.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Don't need to. It's useful while free for people who wouldn't otherwise pay for it. If/when we get the rug pulled from under us, mothrrship Debian is right there.

    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware

    I'm perfectly aware of what Ubuntu Pro is, and the difference between Ubuntu main and universe.

    The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro.

    If you think the meme implies that, then surely you must think that the message printed by Ubuntu's apt upgrade command in the screenshot implies that too, right?

    One of the packages listed in this screenshot is libavcodec, which is required by things like VLC (which is in Ubuntu universe, which is enabled by default).

    If you think it is perfectly fine for Canonical to do the work to patch that library and then withhold the security update from the vast majority of Ubuntu users who won't sign up for Ubuntu Pro... we'll have to agree to disagree.