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Hey, guess what?
50-50, the extremely dubious current IDF claim of civilian casualty ratio, is still worse than the US carpet bombing Japan.
Got a source for that? All figures I'm pulling up actually show the civilian death toll from US bombing Japan to be significantly higher than Israel's. Just looking at the bombing of Tokyo more civilians died in a single night than all of Gaza in the last 50 years. That's not even counting the horrible death ratios from the two atomic bombs.
Ratio, not absolute numbers.
Times of Israel citing an IDF official as 2:1 civilians:combatants - bearing in mind any >15 year old male will be classed as a combatant too, even if they're civilian.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War - 1:2.5 civilians:combatants of Pacific theatre, if Wikipedia is enough for you.
So you're counting every island and military ship inhabited only by Japanese military in this. Of course that would skew the numbers. If you look more specifically at military actions done in Japanese populated areas (a statistic that actually matches the current war), you're going to find some horrifying numbers.