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[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because the people we oppose are already committing mass violence on people. Evil people do not respond to peace, they only respond to violence. The only way to end their violence is using violence to ensure they can't do it.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can understand that to some degree, I'm not a pacifist. But I am a realist, so I don't think a few thousand Lemmy users and a few thousand Reddit users are going to have any success in a full on violent revolution against the most powerful forces the world has ever seen, one that actually ends capitalism. Talking that way alienates people, most people aren't willing to die for communism, they don't know what it is and we're doing a poor job of educating them. They want frappacinos and our rulers know to provide bread and circuses, enough to prevent revolution.

You can't change the way billions of people around the world think by starting a revolution, you can make things worse by starting factional wars or getting all the leftists wiped out leaving cowards. Evolution by natural selection (slow) and cultural change (fast) are the only juggernauts capable of the real change this planet needs to survive this era. You may not see culture changing, but I assure you changes are happening crazy fast, we need to direct this change, and we are. The internet is key to this change.

I"m of the opinion that there is a very small number of truly evil people, they are the rulers and their protectors (those willing to wear a uniform and/or carry a badge and kill innocents on order for pay or loyalty) and a large number of gullible idiots. If we want to win, we need to figure out how to deactivate this idiot army and block propaganda. The long-term goal needs to be to leave these psychopaths unprotected by the state, community self-defense will take care of the rest.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

No, certainly random forum folk won't. But unions certainly could, if we got them enough power. All the strongest people, with leverage over critical infrastructure. But in the meantime, before unions have enough power for that, I think it does basically just fall on random forum folk to get-together IRL and protest against these issues, violently where necessary.