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President Zelensky has called for some of the Russian billions seized by world banks to be sent to rebuild Ukraine.

The G7 group is considering taking only the rise in value and interest due since the assets were frozen in 2020.

But the Ukrainian president told the BBC all of the money should be used. "If the world has $300bn - why not use it?", he said.

The BBC understands central bankers in Europe have concerns over undermining banks' safe haven status.

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[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If anyone could do it, people wouldn't trust foreign institutions as much and it'd heavily disincentivise investment, which would mean slowing down economy growth.

The same economy you as well are a part of.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Caveat, I would be ok with Russia not trusting foreign institutions. In fact I prefer it that way.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Russia doesn't produce much that is used in the west aside from oil. Sooner we get off that muck, the better.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Doesn't change that much, really.

Russia, as a country, does not trust many foreign institutions already - at least the western ones. They're considered unfriendly, undesirable, and dangerous.

At the same time, Russia, as a country, is comprised of many people, including the ones that either directly represent its government in the form of deputies, ministers, and many other official figures, or use the wealth they've built in Russia through schemes and theft and murder and other crimes to build their stashes in democratic countries that have strong institutions and slow bureaucracies to protect their assets.

Most of these people have mastered doublethink, being able to switch their work and private personalities with ease: Get to the government office and pretend you absolutely hate everything to the west of Russia's borders (except Belarus, maybe), including their values, happily vote for laws opposing or hurting them (mostly because you were told to "from above"), make anti-western speeches and so on and so forth - but once you clock out, you check on your kids in London, check on your French business, check on your real estate in Spain.

They live very double-agent type of lives, and will keep living them that way. None of the people in power have any incentive to make Russia a self-sufficient country in any metric, because that's not what they wanted to be in power for, not even close - so Russia will always be interested in foreign institutions and markets and investment, because isolation is definitely not in its interest, nor is it appealing to anyone in power.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not exactly a major loss to me if countries that are only held back from atrocities by economic sanctions decide not to trade with us

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

As seemingly morally correct as it is, you're just talking about way too powerful markets here to dismiss that way. Maybe we, the Lemmy/fediverse crowd, may want and welcome it, but neither the governments nor a large enough portion of their electorates would sacrifice even relative economic comfort and their standard of living for that.

Not to mention that uncovering who's done what atrocities is a very big Pandora's box, opening which either blocks everyone from trading with each other, or leads to heavily-manipulated decisions and results as to whose atrocities justify embargoes and whose don't.

This whole things is neck-deep pile of shit to say the least.