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I swear almost everything in gender differences comes down to how people are raised. Parents gender train kids and that shit sticks.
That is scientifically untrue. Male and female have very different biology, this is why diseases have different distribution, and drugs different effects. Biological differences are the vast majority, and can be easily studied statistically
There are also cultural differences. But saying that most or all differences are cultural is pretty dangerous.
Edit. Corrected wrong edit
Ill be that guy. The comment before yours was mostly referring to gender whereas yours refers more to sex. Two separate concepts. I’d agree with both of you that the sexes are different physically, but our gender stuff is mostly just meme perceptions and not descriptive of reality.
This claim about men’s natural sense of direction is an old myth but it’s important because it affects our ideas of gender being unequal (not sex).
I have no idea if there is a difference in orientation abilities but if it exists, it would clearly be biological. I am happy it is a urban legend.
But nowadays too many people claim that male and female are identical with the exception of the penis. And it is pretty dangerous. Any trans person who transitioned can say how different their bodies and feelings are by just changing the amount of few hormones.
The fact that my comment has as many downvotes as upvotes demonstrated that the fact that biological differences exists are not so well known
The reason you were downvoted is because you conflated their comment about gender with one about sex. That’s all.
I don’t see many people conflating the sexes at all really. I just don’t think it matters much to people. Sex is mostly irrelevant unless you’re a medical or scientific professional. The only reason I’ve ever seen anyone concerned about sex differences is because they want to invalidate trans people and claim their gender must align with their sex.
We are talking of a case that, if true, would be a biological difference.
Sex is not irrelevant, and thinking that talking about biological differences is done to invalidate trans... I mean, it's a problem of the reader biases. The downvoters should think twice that the world is not made of people trying to invalidate trans people. I am fine with whatever a trans person does. Also because many trans people have biological characteristics that can be in between. Biologically, trans people are a universe of biological differences, they are not a single bucket. If I had to talk about trans people, I'd talk about trans people.
Isn't the point of this entire post that it isn't biological, but rather cultural?
That top comment wasn't edited.
No it wasn't -- edited comments have an indicator on them.