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Hetzner Server auction worth it? (lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
 

Hello, recently I have started to see the limit's of vps's and have been thinking about getting a hetzner dedicated server from the auction. My question is are they worth it and if so what would be the best way to make use of them.

By that I mean should I get something like proxmox on it and make use if it that way, or install a stable os like debian and have it all installed in docker making use of the pure power of the system that way?

Edit: My use case for my server vps is my main website, but I also host a lot of alternative frontend' and some other thing like a feed reader (miniflux) and other things like that, that with time I have accumulated and if I wanted to have them all running well would either have to spend money in uograding one vps, or buy multiple smaller one's. In both cases this could end up quite costly.

Reason I can't do it on my own hardare is space contraint's, part's avalibility where I live and prices. They are high.

Edit2: If there is any other good alernartive dedicated server peovider that won't break a bank like hetzner, please recommend them.

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[–] waigl@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Really? That's a rather big claim, and would change a lot for me if true. Do you have anything by the way of a source?

Also, how do you MITM https traffic without one of the parties just handing you their keys?

[–] RaineVixen@programming.dev 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] waigl@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait, they managed to forge Let's Encrypt certificates? While it explains the attack on TLS (though technically not https as originally claimed, not that it makes much of a difference), that's even worse...

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you have control over the host, getting a legit valid cert is trivial.

They're a hosting company. It wouldn't take much for them to temporarily have a vps grab some certs for domains that already point at them. Every hosting company has this power. Few use it.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Technically you don't even need to have control over the host, just over the data flow to the IP.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

That was fascinating. Thank you for sharing. I'm still early on my self-hosting journey, but a year or two ago I would have understood next to nothing of that. :D

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's true, links already shared by others, the thing is that I'm sure other providers would've done the same.

[–] hayalci@fstab.sh 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's the key point. They weren't trawling all the servers, they probably had a wiretap order for one specific server. As a legal business, you can't just say no to police because you don't like mitm.