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cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/6680998

Aliens have not been discovered in South America after all. The doll-like figures, photos of which went viral online last year, are just that – dolls, according to scientists.

The controversial artifacts were seized by Peruvian customs agents in October and intended for "a Mexican citizen," the Associated Press reported.

Mexican journalist and self-described "UFOlogist" Jaime Maussan brought similar unidentified fraudulent objects in front of the Mexican congress last September, claiming that they had been recovered near Peru's ancient Nazca Lines and dated over 700 years old.

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Experts with Peru's prosecutor's office analyzed the seized dolls, and forensic archaeologist Flavio Estrada presented the results of their findings at a press conference for the Peruvian Ministry of Culture on Friday.

"They are not extraterrestrials, they are not intraterrestrials, they are not a new species, they are not hybrids, they are none of those things that this group of pseudo-scientists who for six years have been presenting with these elements," Estrada said.

The humanoid three-fingered dolls consisted of earth-bound animal and human bones assembled with modern synthetic glue, Estrada elaborated. It isn't the first time Maussan has had an otherworldly corpse debunked — he made similar claims in 2017.

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[–] HM05_Me@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe you’re reading too much into my comments and interest in this particular story. Though, I appreciate your contributions to the discussion.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Reading too much into your interest? Entirely possible! I wrote that to provide an evidential foundation to my remarks.

Reading too much into the comments you've made? I'm not reading much of anything into those. In fact that was in large part a response to the specific language you used. You're repeating racist talking points that are common throughout the UAP/UFO community, and now you're attempting to brush that off with "nah you read it wrong". I doubt it's intentional, but it's not like I'm putting words in your mouth when you try and shut down a comment you don't particularly like with incorrect statements of fact and telling me it's irrelevant to discuss points that were brought up in the article itself.

I know introspection isn't exactly the #1 most popular human past-time, but seriously, look at yourself here. You're behaving like a UFOlogist in a meme, refusing to engage with evidence that runs counter to your own biases. And that sucks, because I doubt there would be anything like a disagreement if this were IRL. I'm not trying to attack you, just point out that maybe you should reflect on your own preconceptions about interacting online.

[–] HM05_Me@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please reread what I’ve said so far. I have acknowledged that “ancient aliens” is racially insensitive. In fact, there is not a single structure that I attribute to aliens. I’ve said I have no investment in the alleged mummies, nor do I have an opinion of authenticity. I wasn’t saying that the quote by Sr. Estrada wasn’t relevant. I was saying that the subject of race isn’t relevant to whether something is a biological entity. You brought the subject of race to this post and I was addressing that. Maussan does have a dubious history and right now you’re fabricating as much as he has. Take a step back, catch your breath and realize that we are agreeing on a lot, but you’re forcing a narrative that I’m not a part of.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Classic case of someone trying to seem intelligent by creating a strawman and refuting it (and with so much effort). Thank you for staying patient and polite with this person.