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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I see Jersey schmucks up here with their pavement princess trucks getting stuck in the snow all the time. I see locals in a Corolla or fiesta or other tiny light car make it just fine in deep snow. One of my bosses at the ski mountain used to drive a mini Cooper an hour to work every day.

This is a skill issue.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also snow tires make a huge difference in the snow

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I used to have an old Subaru (Leone, 83).

I could get it anywhere in the snow. It was so easy to drive. It had absolute pizza cutters for tyres.

Once drove up to a ski field without chains on. Was one of only 7 cars to make it to the top (with zero issues) because there was so much snow.

Was a blast to drive.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Skinnier tires are actually better in snow because they can dig down to the ground somewhat and find traction there. Wide tires tend to float on top of the snow because of the larger contract patch (but not enough to stay above it, that requires huge, under-inflated-balloon-like tires like what you'd need on an antarctic expedition)

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

One of the most satisfying things for me is driving my wife's little Mirage in the snow. With normal all season tires it does great, with proper snow tires it's completely unstoppable - that is, until you need to stop.

It turns out that accelrating and stopping a 2,000 pound car on ice and snow is easier than it is with a 4,000 pound vehicle.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

skill? sometimes. the fact that those corollas and mini coopers only weigh a fraction of those huge trucks probably has something to do with it, too...

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Weight and weight distribution are both important, but a pickup will usually perform better in snow with more weight, like 500 lbs of sand in the bed usually does the trick.

How you apply power to the road surface is also very important. Not enough weight and you will just spin tires. Break too aggressively and you lock up. Pedal to the floor and your tires are spinning. Overcorrect your turns when you start to slide and you'll never get back straight.

My car is a little older and actually drives better in snow with the traction control off.

[–] SheeEttin@programming.dev -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Big trucks aren't necessarily all that heavy. The bed is entirely empty space, remember.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The bed is entirely empty space, remember.

but they have much larger, heavier engines and drivetrains.

a ford f-150 weighs about 4,500 lbs (minimum). a dodge ram weighs about 4,750 lbs (minimum)-- these are without any outrigging which can almost double the weight.

a corolla and a mini weigh about 3,000 lbs. a ford fiesta weighs about 2,750 lbs.

those are pretty big differences (to start) which can get bigger depending on the configuration of the truck.

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago

Huh.. That's interesting. My Nissan Navara (Frontier) weights 4400lbs despite being half the size of an F-150.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

And increasingly a smaller and smaller portion of the overall composition of the truck.

It just means even more weight is on the front tires instead of being more evenly distributed.

I think the cybertruck is super heavy, though.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They are heavy but the weight distribution isn't even and most trucks are 4x4/RWD which is what leads to the issues you're alluding to. The rear tires can't propel the vehicle because there's not enough weight over them in the rear compared to the weight of the front.