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Israel is murdering Palestinian journalists in Gaza. Where is the outrage?
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2024
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The comparison is there, they doing the exact same thing.
Ethnic cleaning, genocide and apartheid. Zionists literally think they are better than the Palestinian people.
There are videos of Zionist government saying they want to drop an atomic bomb on Palestinian people in Gaza. The Israeli government compared Palestinian people with “animals” and “rats”.
All these things Nazi did too. Except the atomic bomb.
This is not antisemitism, this is reality. You’re just using antisemitism as an excuse to avoid the comparison.
This is my last message to you though, I refuse to argue/ discuss with pro-Zionist’s. I refuse to get a headache.
Anyway if anyone wants to see the image, it’s on Google. Just Google “Nazi and Israeli” and check the Google images. It’s there.
By my understanding of the phrase "exact same" obviously not. To start with, jews were never an actual threat to the Nazis. They were abused, deported, murdered entirely because they were being jews. Not because they were causing any harm in Germany. Hamas is an actual threat to Israel. I'm sure there are assholes in Israel who think that Palestinians need to be abused because of what they are instead of what they do, but that sentiment is not defining their actions at least currently. Plus Israel is a free nation (unlike Nazi Germany), where dissent is possible and allowed -- Netanjahu is not a dictator and he is quite unpopular.
Secondly, the magnitude is completely different. Germany murdered 6 million jews, which considering that there were about 500 thousand of them in Germany took some real effort. In other words, they did not only murder the jews inside their borders, they conquered several neighboring countries and murdered the jews in there. They were not trying to eradicate militant jews who commit terror strikes, they were trying to eradicate jews period.
If Israel would be doing the exact same thing as Nazis did, this would mean that Israel first kills almost 2 million palestinians, then conquers few of its neighboring countries, and kills 90% of the same population groups from those countries. They might get there some day, who knows, but if they keep this current rate it'll take them perhaps 20 years minimum to do it.
Israel is clearly not committing genocide in the sense that the word was used during WW2. In the modern, UN-defined meaning of the word, they sure check some boxes, though, but it's utterly wrong to compare their actions to the actions of nazis in WW2 just because we're using the word "genocide" as if it was the same word as it was in 1945.
That headache is cognitive dissonance. You're learning the truth which disagrees completely with how you view the world currently. This has not been an argument, this has been you being wrong and me telling you how it is actually.