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    [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I would like MS Office to run in Linux... and not have to vomit even more money to Crossover to get it to work.

    And when you play the "LibreOffice" card, I play the "Word doc with custom layout tables" trap card!

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Which version? 2007 runs just fine. 2010 requres some custom libs, but there are tutorials (there is also a patch that makes it an endless free trial). 2013 is not a finished product IMO, so I haven't used it all or tried in Wine. 2016... yeah, that's a PITA to get working. One thing I can suggest is go with the MSVC++ installer from this link and go from there. You might also need x64dbg, but I seriously doubt it.

    [–] pelya@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    MS Word past 2007 is not MS Word anymore. Microsoft fucked up the menu and the toolbar intentionally, to lock new users into their new fancy user interface with menus-as-buttons. LibreOffice is more MS Word from the usability standpoint than the MS Word 2016. Like, you can select Format - Paragraph and edit your paragraph formatting, all in one dialog, and not search for the right icon out of a hundred pictograms spread evenly over ten dynamic toolbars.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I completely agree, I like LibreOffice way more than MS Office. It's basically got the pre 2007 look and feel, and that is what I like and what I'm used to.

    I just happen to work on getting MS Office working on Wine for a small local company and know a thing or two about getting it working in Wine.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    On another note: why do we have open standards like jpeg and png but proprietary shit like docx?

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    MS took over that market in the 90's when shit was settlig down after the UNIX wars and people didn't actually have an alternative. MS came in and swooped the market.

    It is hard to switch when ”the defaults"are in place.

    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Thanks. Thats actually very interesting. Do you know if there is a good open alternative at this point?

    [–] jkozaka@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
    [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 10 months ago

    Thanks for mentioning it. I had forgotten it exists since I barely use word processors atm.

    [–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    What's "custom layout tables"? Anyway, I now only play https://typst.app card, because I don't use LO Writer anymore, only LO Calc for some stuff. Typst has a ton of scripting capability and granular customization, so it will probably beat your "custom layout tables" by a ~~mile~~ kilometer!

    Typst is the future for document creation. Mark my words.

    [–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    You based chad. Typst is absolutely awesome. It made me ditch Libreoffice and LaTeX at the same time. Haven't looked back since then.

    [–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Glad you've made the switch! If you want, you can hop into the discord server.

    [–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I'm sorry but discord is a nogo for me. I'm already in the matrix room so feel free to join, we could use some more discussion ;)

    [–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Matrix room? Where? There is no official Matrix space.

    I agree, I hate discord, but that's where everybody is messaging, including authors. BTW, we had a "community call" a few days ago in the discord. It's a monthly thing.

    [–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    No it is not official unfortunately. Just search for it. Maybe you could advertise the matrix room a bit :)

    [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Do you know of any Google xcel alternatives? Something that still allows public viewing, and collaborative editing?

    [–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

    No, but you can allow read only access to your document on typst.app and you can collaborate with it too.

    [–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

    I don't know of any public ones, but you can always host your own copy of Collabora with an instance of Next cloud.

    [–] HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

    Try freeoffice, I remember it having better compatibility with word docs

    [–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    What's wrong with cross over?

    [–] jkozaka@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    It's proprietary and paid, so even if it works great, it is still closed source. It's also not a great sign that their website has no option to refuse cookies, only accept (not even a customise menu).

    [–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I only like CO because they directly support Wines development, and host their website. Soamy FLOSS projects don't survive because of no funding. The cookies thing is probably an honest oversite, I've seen this forgotten on many sites.

    [–] jkozaka@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

    Fair point, even if it is only for corporate interest, funding wine is great!