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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Let's say that the Uvalde cops instead of doing nothing went in to the school and gave the school shooter more guns, ammo, a vehicle to drive to the next school, and shot anyone trying to stop the school shooter.

That is how insanely stupid it is to say that America is not responsible for knowingly arming genocidal Nazi israel while they are in the process of committing genocide.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The thing is that I'm not arguing against anything that you said. It's horrible that he's enabling this, which is very different. And even then, he's not even handing the support out all on his own. What I'm saying is, why are you treating Biden like he's the one directing the whole operation and murdering people himself? Give credit where it's due and stop exaggerating.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because Biden is the one with full power to stop this at any moment if he so desired?

Because Biden is actively providing Intel to israel?

Because Biden bypassed Congress to give more bombs to Isreal last month?

Because Biden sent three aircraft carriers to stop anyone from retaliating?

Because Biden says he is a Zionist himself?

Stop excusing Genocide Joe. He is just as responsible if not more responsible than Netanyahu. He is the key player that enables this genocide.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Stop excusing Genocide Joe.

Nobody's excusing him. Listen to the fucking argument and stick to it.

He is just as responsible if not more responsible than Netanyahu

He's not. That's my whole point. He's not the one issuing orders. If I gave you a gun and you misuse it, that's on you. You can't say I'm responsible for the murder you committed, even if I enabled your behavior. I would not be the murderer. Is that clear? Can we hold two ideas at once? Do you realize what I'm saying? Or are you just gonna generally argue at me like I'm saying something else that you'd rather talk about?

Because Biden sent three aircraft carriers to stop anyone from retaliating?

Exactly, because there's a bigger picture here, but all you care about is blindly blaming one person in some sort of big bad wolf fantasy of yours. Netanyahu and his entire administration is the one pulling the trigger, which is part of the argument. You're overlooking decades of severe conflict with Palestine. The rage, the pain, the suffering on both sides. They want to murder each other and they don't need Biden's blessings for that. They themselves are also taking advantage of the opportunity and we have to recognize that. Because even if Biden did stop supplying arms to Israel, the war would not end. Israel won't listen. The conflict would spill over to neighboring countries. It's complex. I can't believe I have to spell it out when we've grown up hearing about this our entire lives.