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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And you seem to know a lot about all these people to blanket describe them as “a shitty person” each and all.

I know that they were slavers and the defenders of slavers. That's enough.

For example, I don't know much about Brock "the Rapist" Turner, but I know he raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster, so that's enough for me to say that he's a shitty person, and fuck him forever. And you know what? Anybody who sticks up for Brock is also a shitty person. And that's just rape. Slavery was so much worse, and also included lots of rape on top.

Maybe you live in an information rich media sphere but they didn’t.

Ok, but all of those people who resisted the draft lived in that same media-poor sphere, did they not? Are you just going to pretend that those people didn't exist? Do you think they made the hard choices they did just because they had more information than their peers? If that's the case, why didn't people like Robert E. Lee, who had much more access to information than the vast majority of his traitorous compatriots also join the resistance?

Maybe it's not a differential of information, but of morality that is the determining factor.

And absolutely the Confederacy was a terrible and rotten cause through and through but most of these people didn’t have any choice in the matter.

Except for all of the people who "didn't have a choice" and chose not to fight anyway.

It’s the poor bastards who didn’t own slaves or hold wealth you see beneath those grave markers.

Let's be clear, here. I don't think they're pieces of shit because they were poor. There were plenty of poor people who died fighting against slavery. I have no desire to piss on their graves. They died heroes. The people who fought to advance the cause of slavery, though, fuck them forever. In this life, it is not your intentions that define you in the eyes of others, but your actions. Their actions caused a massive amount of pain and suffering.

[–] mob@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like the your depth of knowledge and critical thinking applied is purely based off a long history of reading internet comments

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Care to share some of the insight that led to that conclusion, professor?