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Boy if that isn't the truth. There was an article over the weekend where someone came in boldly claiming how the war could be ended in a day if Ukraine would simply concede the land that was occupied by Russians. I jumped in asking why they would believe that when Russia's goals from the beginning were to commit genocide against all Ukrainians to claim their land and natural resources. The conversation never even got to the point of discussing how Russia initially attacked regions far removed from the Russian-occupied territories or that those regions are only occupied by Russians because the original Ukrainian people 'mysteriously' disappeared and neighbors woke up to find someone else living in their homes. Just trying to defend Ukraine's actions was too much and the mods deleted my comments without any explanation.
You can see why it was removed: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&userId=652090
If you go to an instance there is "modlog" on the bottom. Search for your own name and presto.
But be warned, it will probably make you angry :(
Interesting, thanks for letting me know about that feature.
I'm genuinely curious though, was anything I said in those two comments incorrect? I thought it was accurate based on what I've been hearing since Russia began attacking in 2022 even though I know it's in direct conflict with the official Russian propaganda, but is my summary in line with the Ukrainian point of view?
Nah they mark it as misinformation, but the stories are way to common to be nonsense. And in a war zone it is difficult to corroborate or properly investigate. This allows Russia to keep denying the accusations and continue the path they are on. As long as you keep a wide view on the world, and read from many sources (not just 2 western echo-puts of alt right trolls) you will be pretty well informed.
Also always keep in mind that "we" tend to look at the world through a very western lens. There are a lot of Nasty people at the top of our countries too.
Oh I agree. I was pretty happy with Biden's support early-on, but the way he's now letting that slip in favor of supporting Israel is just disgusting. I don't scout around for a ton of news sources but it's pretty easy most times to separate the blatant propaganda pieces, especially since this is one item I've tried to keep up on over the last couple years.