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[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Pretty gross rack design tho. Should just be a bunch of pipes bent into a large U-shape cemented into the ground on both ends.

You're supposed to lock the rear wheel with a u-bolt, not the front wheel.

Also not all bikes are shaped the same, and once you put a weeks worth of groceries on them that front wheel is popping out of that shitty slot and you're crushing the guy next to you

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is a very common Dutch design for bike racks. You use the vertical bar to chain your frame to.

If your groceries are popping your front wheel up, you have a very awkward setup. I've only had that happen with very large/weird loads. Normal groceries should be over your rear axle, not behind it.

Not all bikes are the same, but over here 90% of bikes are city bikes, and this rack accommodates that.

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Couldn't agree more. Imagine telling the Dutch how to do bikes as a non-Dutch. :p

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Use a chain? Thats either less secure or bigger & heavier than a u-bolt. Just look at the bar, its not going to work for the rear wheel.

The rack I describe is cheaper (less metal), more secure, and accommodates 100% of bikes. I know many Dutch-made cargo bikes won't even work with the design shown.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad you have all the answers

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc -1 points 8 months ago

Well, I do know how to make bike racks

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're supposed to lock the rear wheel with a u-bolt, not the front wheel.

This must vary a lot, but that's how you keep only a wheel where I'm from. I even saw those wheels locked to railings here and there in Berlin

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me, but the whole reason to lock the rear wheel (as opposed to the front wheel) is specifically to avoid this problem. By locking through the rear wheel inside the rear triangle of the frame, you lock up both the wheel and the frame at once.

This is why bike racks designed to lock the front wheel are stupid.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was arguing, but now that you explained it I understand that you were right all along

Edit: but the comment is still valid with regard to front wheel locking

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How would locking the rear wheel work for that yellow bike with the tow cart? If bicycles are to replace cars for grocery runs, I imagine such tow carts would be a must for many people.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 0 points 8 months ago

It would work great. You'd lock the rear wheel to the bike rack with a ubolt, and that would lock both the frame of the bike and the rear wheel in one go. To lock the front wheel and the trailer, use a cable and loop it around and pass it through the same ubolt.

My point is that the bike racks that are just one large U shape are far more versatile. They work for road bikes. They work for short folder bikes. They work for huge cargo bikes. They work for the bike with they yellow trailer.