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Canada does not do better. We are really good at blaming the victim and allowing drunk drivers to be repeat offenders. Shit, where I moved away from there were people lobbying to increase the legal BH limit.
This is why driving should be by profession only and very regulated IMO.
Any other heavy machinery generally needs a license and regular recertification that requires you to basically take the test again. And anywhere you'd be operating generally has other people who have also undergone their own safety trsining. But giant 1-ton metal machines that go on public roads co-occupied by random pedestrians? Just come round every so often so we can give you a new ID.
Exactly, it's insane how we allow people- even literal children- to operate heavy machinery that kills thousands every year with only a basic understanding and minimal experience.
Not only that, but the most common area to train in is the very same roads everyone is using. There are no facilities where you can go and learn under controlled conditions and supervison, for most people you near the end of your teens and an adult gives you some keys after you past a written exam.
Well, depending on your location. In the North East U.S. you definitely can take a professional driving course. There is a program called "In Control: Crash prevention".
I first took that class as an EMT through my ambulance job. But, it is open to the public. I brought my 17 y/o son to the class shortly after he got his license.
Yes these services exist, but they are not required to get a lisence, and that is part of the problem, there is no centralized regulatory body controlling the training drivers recieve if any.
Fair point. That level of class that we took should be required.
Yup it's rampant here, thinking I might move to Montreal.
dude, .04 is a joke and an excuse for police to harass. MADD ceased being about safety and has been money generation for decades now. This all has been a classic case of imposing new laws instead of simply enforcing the old ones, like gun control and some other things i can think of.
The legal limit is .08 in most places. It should be 0. There should be no alcohol in anyone's blood stream when they are driving, no exceptions.
You're as poorly informed as you are clever.
Because I don't think people should be allowed to drive drunk?
Neither do I, but that's not the point you've been making. You're still poorly informed on the laws, spreading misinformation mixed with what you want things to be
How am I spreading misinformation? Generally speaking the legal limit is .08 in Canada.
.04 is the general rule now, and this is not uncommon knowledge.
According to my provinces website it is a range between .04 and .08.
I know, why are you telling me what I was bringing to your attention?
You're telling me I am wrong and spreading misinformation when it says on the website I am not wrong. If I am wrong so are you.
You gibbering idiot, you were making the claim .04 wasn't a thing before.
I never did, I said generally the limit is .08 and that is the truth. I concede that I was unaware it was a limit range, but you claimed the limit was .04, which is either just as wrong as my initial number or just as right.
It is most places. You seriously have no idea what you're talking about.