Red states have just as little of your interest at heart. They just know that letting people keep a few rifles and pistols won't actually have any measurable effect against the US army if there was an uprising. It just makes their constituents feel safe and give them their votes.

[+] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Worked in the middle east. And vietnam. And korea.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You have no idea what you’re talking about, it wasn’t a bunch of morons with rifles in any of those cases.

Korea was pushed all the way north by the U.S. until China came down and push us back out. We withdrew fearing a larger scale war after most countries were still recovering from WWII

Vietnam was dense jungle warfare with a people that had already been fighting the French successfully with Guriella warfare. While the war wasn’t exactly a great time for the U.S., we weren’t losing militarily by any stretch of the terms. We had lost public support for various reasons, student protests and blah blah blah z

Lastly the Middle East, what exactly happened there? Hmm, about 1 million enemy combatants over 20 years, oh also about 3 million civilian causalities. Compared to about 6000 U.S. service member deaths. How did they inflict that many casualties ? Mainly by reusing weapons we gave them to fight the soviets and the shit that the Soviet left behind was used to blow shit up.

So I don’t what you boys with your second amendment semi auto rifles are gonna do, but good luck with that. The morons on your side of the team, couldn’t even organize a non-jackass raid of the capital building.

Sources: the ability to read, a U.S. History book, Grandfather served in Korea and I served in the U.S. Army.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not with this other guy, but you don't seem to understand that we lost those wars because there was no end goal. Occupation is not something you can do, the people are either on your side and willing to take up the mantle (Korea and keep you there long term) or want you to GTFO (Vietnam/Afghanistan). The issue with assuming that the army would side with the anti-gun crowd is really not smart, a large portion of the military, which are going to be the ones patrolling the street corners would be gun owners themselves. This isn't even to bring up the point that if your neighbor is bombed, unless you live a mile from them, your place is also getting destroyed.

Anyone who wants a civil war to show one side or the other they're right....is insane.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is actually beautifully telling that that's what you responded with.

You've been convinced that you would obviously take up arms if anything you cared about that much wasn't fixed by voting.

Anything that sounds like something you would care about probably isn't true, because you've been living in this same world with these same issues that haven't been solved by voting for (how long has it been?) and you haven't picked up your gun yet. So obviously that issue isn't happening or isn't as bad as people say (or maybe they're lying to you???), and you can twist yourself into knots justifying and rationalizing why you support it because hey, you haven't taken up arms about it and you probably never will.