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I needed to reinstall Firefox on this computer, so I started up Chrome to download the latest version and it blocked the download as unsafe! I had to manually tell it to download anyway.

Fuck Chrome. I'm glad I only used it to download one file and went back to Firefox.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Remember when the meme was about Internet Explorer?

IE: What is my purpose?

Me: You download Chrome!

IE: Oh...my god!

Now Chrome isn't trusted. Even duck duck go is getting dubious. It seems there's almost nowhere to turn. Your data is their data, and if you dont like it, you can lump it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] omnomed@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Basically microsoft has a deal with them which makes them give aggregate data to microsoft. Which led to this.

P.S. : I am primarily still using ddg in case someone's thinking I'm an anti or something.

[–] Vt1984@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ok, seems it’s time to seek next search engine.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I use both SearX and LibreX alongside DDG and that helps with 99% of my daily search online.

If I need to use Google for search, I do so in my tor browser.

[–] Vt1984@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The safety of tor browser is great, but I usually use the private mode of safari or firefox, I am lazy to wait for the tor... unless I do some important things.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Browser private modes are not really private, it's just an isolated window that won't save your search to the browser history. Google and other trackers would always link your private session back to you.

Read Mozilla's take on browser private modes.

[–] Vt1984@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It’s just a balance between performance and safety. Everyone in different situations needs to consider whether it’s suitable for themselves to make different decisions. The most safe usage doesn’t always mean the best usage for every situation, OK?

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't google block your tor browser?

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Google serves me captcha and those are not much of a problem since I rarely use it.

[–] outerspace@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Kagi.com is pretty good

[–] v81@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nothing. Just a misunderstanding that blew up.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] dym_sh@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

those also blew up, no traces left

[–] v81@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Is it fair that I have to post a source when someone criticizing doesn't?

I'm just a passing stranger that just happens to have good knowledge about a significant misunderstanding that happened a year ago.

I don't walk around with 'sources' to all of the knowledge I've ever gained hanging out of my back pocket.

This is why "source?" posts are stupid and unreasonable, double so when in response to something where a source was never provided.

Now.. that all said, I do have a moment now that I didn't have previously to provide additional information.

This article... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31490515 ...Is a starting point, and more info can be found with your own search.

The basic gist was that it was claims DDG pass user data that could identify a user to Microsoft from searches, however this was never the case.

I have to allegiance with DDG.. they do an ok job. But I do indeed think it unfair they get continuously accused of wrongdoing, even still to this day as evidenced here.

This is just another case of bad, negative or incorrect information getting more publicity than the facts.

[–] SnipingNinja 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone did provide a source in response when asked instead of writing a diatribe, not that I disagree with you, but your complaint was unnecessary. Someone made a claim and was asked for more information, you made an opposite claim in response to that and were asked for more information.

[–] v81@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The person that made the claim never responded. I don't know what you're talking about.

However I did respond, when I could.

So point stands, an accusation was made without evidence, and that accusation is still there, and now mine and one other post responds to that accusation... that again is without evidence.

My issues is, when I made that last post, why was I asked for a source, but no one asked the person making the claim against DDG for a source?

If the people asking me for a source had also asked the original claimant for a source I'd have no issue.

The practice of asking the counter claimant for a source and not the claimant is rife, unfair, unreasonable and needs to be called out.

If seems far too common to accept a say so when an accusation is made online.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Is it fair that I have to post a source when someone criticizing doesn’t?

If you're trying to debunk a myth or call someone's BS, then yes a source should be your opening statement. Is it fair? No. Is it necessary? Absolutely.

With all that said thank you for providing the source. A very well written one it was. I am going to debunk this myth now too, if and when I see it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nothing to see here, you say? Gotcha. 🙈

[–] v81@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. Sorry you feel providing a source for claims is unfair, but it is what it is.

All I really needed was context, to be honest, in this particular case. I got that, so thanks again.

[–] v81@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Asking for a source isn't unreasonable in a more important setting.

It's more an issue that no one asks for source for the original accusation.

It's the kind of action that lets baseless and faulty accusations get more traction than the truth.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think they were just curious and should've probably said "What happened? And do you possibly have a link to more information?" I don't think they were questioning the claim, itself. That's just my interpretation.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even duck duck go is getting dubious.

Tried Kagi?

[–] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eyy! You took the words out of my mouth! I don’t mind paying for a search engine if it’s good lol

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's the whole "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product." But I guess the downvoters are perfectly fine with having their data harvested for "free."

[–] Metype@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Not as easy of a choice when I'm struggling to get a job :/