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Meanwhile Israel remains the biggest killer of LGBTQ+ Palestinians.
This is the same Israeli court that has ruled against Netanyahu multiple times, and which he has been desperately trying to delegitimize for fear of eventually going to prison. What Israel is doing is terrible, and we also shouldn't automatically dismiss progressive voices in Israel just because they are Israeli. There is a large percentage of Israel that does not support Netanyahu or the genocide he has undertaken
Sadly, even with the most recent conflict, that’s almost certainly not true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ahmad_Abu_Murkhiyeh
Israel has special visa/work permit/asylum process for LGBT Palestinians. I would bet there’s more gay and out Palestinians in Israel than there are in Palestine.
Gaza/Hamas are especially awful relative to the West Bank.
Oh so when Israel drops a bomb on Gaza they ask whether the 21,000 people are straight?
I would be willing to bet that there are maybe, at most, 50 people out in Gaza out of 800,000. And even that might be high.
There are no protections at all in Gaza, and you’re quite likely to be the recipient of an honor killing.
So, if you were to ask anyone in Gaza if they’re gay, they’re going to say no.
It's easy to become more progressive when you're not being genocided out of existence.
Is that true? I’m not aware of any Muslim states that anyone would refer to as progressive. Which ones are you thinking of?
The US has seen almost unparalleled peace and prosperity and I wouldn’t say becoming progressive is easy. We’re still fighting about reproductive rights here.
And LGBTQ rights. But I would say it's true for any theocratic states, except for to its credit Isreal. It just happens to be that most of the ones in today's world are Muslim. The Christian Fascists of the US are trying to turn the US into a theocratic state as well, and when our laws are based on religion, it'll be terrible for LGBTQ, too.
Too true.
Just because they're not out, doesn't mean they're not gay. Israel has 100% killed more LGBTQ Palestinians recently just from all their bombings.
It's raining men
Im not sure straight Palestinians are getting a pass.
When they murder 1700 LGBTQ+ people, then we can talk.
What?
Source?
8% of the world's population identifies as a member of the LGBTQ+ community.
Israel has killed 21,000 Palestinians in Gaza. Assuming the same percentage, that is 1680 people who identified themselves as a member of the LGBTQ+ community.
In the 20 years of Hamas rule, they have not killed 1680 people in Gaza for being gay.
Cool so source is "I am guessing"
Are you denying that Israel killed 21000 people?
Are you asserting that 8% of the population of Gaza is LGBT?
This literally makes no sense at all.
It's a bad assumption. Anyone found to be gay in Gaza was already killed by their family or public stoning. The percentage there is going to be significantly lower than any average.
1700 killings? You got a source for that?
Well we know your numbers are made up, so I can't source your imaginary numbers
21,000 dead is not made up.
A huge deal was made one gay guy was killed for being gay last year. Its doubtful they were killing thousands or people would've similarly noticed.
It was a huge deal because he made it out of the west bank alive and was outspoken. Plenty more people that did not have such luck.
No, that would be the Palestinians. They will stone anyone discovered to be gay.