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You ignored the rebuttal. But that's fine, I'll repeat myself.
Hamas ignores the peace plan. Again, and again, and again. Even when backed and designed by majority Muslim countries like Egypt and Qatar.
this is a red herring. you're distracting from whether israel is committing genocide.
if you were in the warsaw ghetto, would you accept a peace plan?
Are you calling Egypt or Qatar's peace plan akin to Stalin's peace plan to Poland? Are you saying that Egypt or Qatar are on Israel's side as per some military alliance? Where are you even going with this? There's a solid peace plan on the table, right now as we speak, and neither Israel nor Hamas are going for it. And therefore, the war will continue.
The fact that a legitimate and honorable peace has been offered by a reasonably trustworthy 3rd party has everything to do with this situation. Neither Israel, nor Hamas (and therefore, the current leaders of Gaza), want peace. So war continues.
You'll do far more good yelling at the people of Gaza (or Israelis) to enact the Egyptian peaceplan ASAP. Or alternatively, pointing out what's exactly wrong with Egypt's plan.
i'm saying gaza is a ghetto and i would fight the nazis.
besides your rhetorical questions, this is comment is entirely personal attacks.
This isn't rhetorical. We have literally a plan that would stop both Israel and Hamas from fighting for the near future and you're responding to me with weird ass Poland analogies.
Is the Egyptian peace plan reasonable? Can you even look at it for a second and prove to me that you have any semblance of care for this situation?
your raising this plan as a red herring. you still haven't admitted that israel has done terrible things and are now trying to act like its all in the past and all that matters is what egypt has proposed.
i won't fall for this. i won't ignore the genocide.
Israel can do terrible things without it being a genocide.
The USA's bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible things. But they were not genocidal.
You're the one fixated on calling it a genocide. I'm more than happy to say that Israel's settlers in the West Bank are assholes or that the Bibi government is full of right-wing power mongers or whatever. But genocide is a completely different word yo and shouldn't be used so wantonly.
but it is a genocide, so this is moot.
so WWII analogies are fine, but only wehn you use them to excuse genocide.
Apparently you like WW2, so I'm trying to work with you here. The millions of people the USA killed in Japan do not constitute a genocide. And Japan agrees with us. War is war. A genocide is a well defined thing. A systematic erasure of a culture, a people. The closest thing to a genocide in Israel right now is West Bank IMO, with the settler issue which is causing displacements and whatever. But that's not the Gaza situation you're talking about.
but what's happening in gaza is not a war because gaza is a ghetto inside israel. it's a genocide.
Yeah. I'll call it at this point. I'm not sure if there's much usefulness to this discussion to me anymore. We've covered this topic already.
I thought you were done hours ago. bye.
Are you randomly going to contact me again in a few minutes? As I said, I try not to block people. But we can let this discussion die out if you want.
But my inbox is remains open if you want to continue discussing. I just personally don't want us going in circles. So if you're serious about letting this discussion lie, I'm cool with it.
I'm not the one who has lied twice about walking away.