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[–] ifyoudontknowlearn@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree that such protests are not a good thing to expose kids to but to creating a protest free bubble around every thing doesn't seem practical. As an example it would stop a rally in support of black lives matter as well. Or teachers striking.

Suddenly someone has to say what topics are allowed to have rallies and which are not. We don't want to live in that country.

I'd say the police should handle these differently. For example if the protesters are threatening to anyone in the location but I don't see any evidence that they would make even remotely good choices.

Having said that, the police do need to do a better job. It seems to me that if skuffles break out it probably means there is not enough separation between the protesters. I would also like to stop seeing the police helping fascists too but I doubt I will get that wish.

[–] leigh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Such a bubble seems workable to me, with the caveat of “during classes” or the like. If teachers are on strike, then there aren’t classes in session and thus it would be okay. And for BLM, a student-led rally could take place after classes, and a community-led rally during school hours would probably be much more effective if held elsewhere.

But the reason we’re talking about this is because anti-trans protestors want children to feel it’s dangerous and bad to be queer. It’s specifically an attack on queer kids and anyone who helps them feel safe at school. And kids, whether queer or not, shouldn’t be forcefully exposed to that hate in a place they are required by law to be.

[–] oneofthemladygoats@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

It's the bigotry and hate that needs to be the focus of any action, not the act of protesting. I disagree that it would be detrimental for kids to see people exercising their freedom of expression, as thorny as the issue is, ultimately if you're getting kids thinking critically about the world around them and their part in it, that's a very good thing. But these bigots are literally protesting the existence of queer kids, they are protesting to be hateful and nothing more. That shit is not okay.

But the reason we’re talking about this is because anti-trans protestors want children to feel it’s dangerous and bad to be queer.

Indeed, which is gross and makes me very angry

Such a bubble seems workable to me, with the caveat of “during classes” or the like. If teachers are on strike, then there aren’t classes in session and thus it would be okay. And for BLM, a student-led rally could take place after classes, and a community-led rally during school hours would probably be much more effective if held elsewhere.

I like it. Nice. That could be a workable solution. I was concerned by phrases like: no protests against human rights. I manage understand what that means but I have zero confidence that police forces or conservative governments would ever do the right thing with that definition.