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[–] books@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Shouldn't you be filming for the device?

Like tiltok should be vertical and yt should be horizontal?

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'd say you should be filming for the content.

Someone on a pogo stick in the backyard? Vertically.
Your pet running around in the backyard? Probably horizontally.
Your friend planking in the backyard? ~~Definitely horizontally.~~ Not at all, get new friends.

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But I've spent the last ten years perfecting my planking game.

I need witnesses to my perfection.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can nail you to my deck if that is what you are into.

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You can thrash all over me, skate-daddy.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As an artist this is how I've always thought about it. Shooting a group of five people vertical is suboptimal. There's too much wasted frame.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But if all you're going to use the video for is social media then you'll have to crop the video and get weird ratio with worse quality. so if it's for Instagram stories why not just take the video or photo vertical so you know it'll work.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I don't really use social media so it doesn't come up for me often. Nevertheless, just because a platform forces me to use an orientation doesn't mean that orientation is a good fit for the subject I'm shooting.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Film everything in square 1:1 format

[–] Dublin112@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Until Vine and later tiktok, basically the whole Internet was in the horizontal format and vertical videos would play with huge black boxes on the left and right and in turn you can't really make out the details of the videos as well because they were so small on those screens. Today's internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Today's internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.

It absolutely makes sense. You can design whatever you want for vertical videos but it makes no difference if the actual content isn't designed for it.

How many times have you seen videos with multiple people falling out of frame while simultaneously half the frame consists of ground and sky? Then the camera operator viciously whips back and forth to try to capture everything, creating a jarring fuckin video? How many times do you see TikTokkers trying to contort their bodies so you can actually see what's going on in the image behind them? What difference does the size of resolution of the image make when half of it is consumed by nothing important?

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That probably means they should've zoomed out, regaldless of orientation

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To create even bigger empty spaces of ground and sky?

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Once you've got everything you can just crop to where the action is happening later, as well as chose a different aspect ratio if need be

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Crop it? Sooo then you're just back to horizontal but at a significantly degraded resolution...

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago

Not really. Most phones can film in 4k and most services compress it to absolute shit anyway nowadays. You're not losing much but cropping first

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except it does. It is such a waste of space to film like that. If anything film a square

[–] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

We all know the best way to film is in the shape of a circle

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

It slightly annoys me when looking for YT vids on a subject and the results are full of 10 second vertically filmed shorts 🤦‍♂️. Some are fine in some cases I guess, but the majority are just noise IMO

[–] Floey@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

You should be filming for your subject and media devices should be built around common filming aspect ratios. A phone camera's aspect ratio should be practical for capturing typical content, a phone screen's aspect ratio should mirror phone cameras, I think this is already approximately the case. Phones are somewhat unique compared to say a TV because they can easily be viewed vertical and horizontal, so really they have two aspect ratios.

I think the vertical photo and video phenomenon is more a symptom of how we use our devices. People are rapid fire swiping through media which means the majority aspect ratio is going to push the minority one out, which is why landscape is dead. Another reason I believe is people switching between apps, Tiktoking at the same time they use other social media for example, and often those apps are way more practical in portrait.