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If we're burning passports and refusing to talk to anyone whose country has committed brutal genocide it's going to be very lonely and smokey in every country.
I see this bullshit spread around a lot trying to defend something evil their country does. Can you actually source some evidence? or this is just a strawman people think that makes themselves look smart?
You often hear people say that all countries are brutal genocidal death machines when they are trying to defend their country? Being a brutal genocidal death machine is not a defense, it's a damning indictment of how flawed a country is.
I'm not clear on what you wanted a source for. That countries are murderous?
Being murderous and full on genocidal are two different things.
This you?
Regurgitating shit about things you have no clue, or sources to back it up, just because you feel like it, because shitheads use it to deflect their own country's genocide isn't the flex you think it is.
Yep! But committing genocide almost always requires murder so it's appropriate to use either term when describing countries.
I'm still not sure what you want a source for? That countries commit genocide? I mean the news and also every history book is the source for that. I was born in Australia, we genocided countless indigenous nations. I live in the US, ditto. North and south of me are Canada and Mexico. Ditto. Destroying other peoples has been one of the main reasons to have a state. We have so many monuments from early states glorifying their genocides.
I'm still not clear what you think it is I'm saying.
To be clear, my point was that as brutal and horrific as Israel's actions are, it doesn't make sense to shun every individual citizen of that country.
Fine. Burn all the passports. Abolish all the borders.
Yeah that works for me but it feels like a shift in position from shun residents of this one country to abolish all countries.
I'm in favor of the latter which for me makes the former seem pointless and arbitrary.
The thing is that both sides are not innocent. As it turns out Hamas is a terrorist organization that uses human shields and kill Civilians. That doesn't justify Israel blowing up a hospital full of people but its important to note that basically everyone involved has blood on there hands.
This is a situation that shouldn't be happening.