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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you arguing that the judges who concluded he organized an insurrection did so in error? None of the confederates who asked their that disability be removed by vote argued that they didn't need to do so because they had not been so convicted.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a process for deciding if criminal behavior happened, it's called a conviction. We've seen judges make mistakes assessing the reality of criminal behavior all the time in Civil Asset Forfeiture cases where the standard of conviction isn't required.

None of the confederates who asked their that disability be removed by vote argued that they didn't need to do so because they had not been so convicted.

Because those confederate involvement in the Confederacy was a matter of public record. If we had fought a war against a military force Trump had organized, and that force surrendered; then we wouldn't need a conviction.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The insurrection and Trumps role in it is a matter of public record. He doesn't dispute the facts of the case he just disagrees with whether his actions are illegal and what the consequences are. The judge's disagree.