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Bluesky, a decentralized Twitter-like social network, is pausing new signups “temporarily” to try and resolve performance issues it’s been experiencing after Twitter introduced limits on the amount of tweets you can see in a day. Even though you still need an invite code to be able to join Bluesky, it seems that the influx of new users has been a problem.

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[–] throne_deserter@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Irrespective of the popular success which Bluesky / Mastodon may receive, I am simply glad that enough platforms exist for anyone to seek refuge in if the rapacity by these giants becomes the norm.

[–] eu8@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The majority of social media sites (with the exception of youtube imo) don't provide anything of value. A smart high school kid could write a twitter clone over a weekend. The only thing these websites have to offer is their large user base.
EDIT: OK, I apparently upset some people. I was exagerating when I said it could be done in a weekend, but my point stands that it's pretty easy to make a twitter clone/reddit clone, and the challenge in succeeding for twitter is getting a user base. The tech is incredibly easy to build.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Exactly. OG content creators, shit posters and lurkers make the Eco system work.

In that order.

Once some corp spook starts fucking with the Eco system, quality of discourse goes down until the platform gets gutted.

I don't want shit marketed to me. I am looking to shoot ideas and have some push back on assumptions

Putting me into echo chamber via cohort groups or shoving endless ads provides me with zero benefit, daddy

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

A smart high school kid could write a twitter clone over a weekend

This is a pretty good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Twitter is much more than the simple frontend you see when you click on the website, there is absolutely no way a single person could recreate it in a month, less alone a weekend.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is bluesky part of fediverse?

[–] brianshatchet@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] yesdogishere@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

bluesky is crap. it requires an invite and id verification. 100% will turn into a fascist navel-gazing network.

[–] hydro033@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Well that certainly is a hot take

[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Id verification since when? I haven't done that.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bluesky is crap. it requires an invite and id verification. 100% will turn into a fascist navel-gazing network.

The rest of the platforms which will still be using anonymous access will be invaded by AI's astroturfing their stuff into your face. Which one do you prefer?

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally impossible for any social network to ever under any circumstances be relevant/important enough that asking for an ID could theoretically be forgivable under any circumstances, let alone valid.

There are very few scenarios where any website asking for an ID should even be legal. It's a massive and inexcusable privacy issue.

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

People won't fight for privacy. They already know that they are spied on but still they do not react.

[–] yunggwailo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

jack is a fascist so it shouldnt surprise anyone

[–] AshDene@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it claims it will become decentralized (unless something has changed in the last month or so).

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I believe they opened things up to developers recently. I do think they will become decentralized, but am more concerned it will become a "no censorship" aka "no moderation" mess pretty quickly. It relies quite heavily on filters and aggregators rather than moderators.

[–] onepinksheep@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No. It's decentralized like the Fediverse, but it doesn't use ActivityPub. I think there are some 3rd party developers working on an ActivityPub-Bluesky bridge, but nothing concrete yet.

[–] MeowdyPardner@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it also just not open to federation at the moment? So the federated/decentralized aspect could just be vaporware and never happen. I don't even begin to take their word for it until it stops being de-facto centralized.

[–] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm no expert, but I found this blogpost insightful: BlueSky is cosplaying decentralization

The more I read about BS’s protocol, the more I think this is done on purpose.
Why? Because it allows BS to pay lip service to decentralization, without actually giving away the power in the system.
[..]
Another pretty good sign that BS’s decentralization is actually b.s. is the fact that the Decentralized Identifiers (DIDs) used by BlueSky are currently “temporarily” not actually decentralized. The protocol uses something imaginatively called “DID Placeholder”. If I were a betting man I would bet that in five years it will keep on using the centralized DID Placeholder, and that that will be a root cause of a lot of shenanigans.
[..]
it decentralizes the cost to the central authority by pushing data load onto volunteers, while planning to keep control by being the biggest kid on the “reach” block.

[–] 1chemistdown@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They’re making their own federation. They brought in Mastodon consultants and have set up their own AT Protocol and of course we’re activitypub. To federate everyone their would need to be a bridge between AT and activitypub