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[–] seaturtle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 381 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Heh, more of this shit.

Remember, the only reason we can still watch the highly influential 1922 vampire movie Nosferatu today is because some people didn't destroy all their copies despite a court saying they had to.

DISOBEY DESTRUCTION ORDERS.

COPY ALL THE THINGS.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The author in question here was pretty shitty. He wrote his own sequel to called "Fellowship of the King", and then sued Amazon and the Tolkien estate saying they stole elements from his book. He lost, and the Tolkien estate countersued.

The guy played stupid games and won stupid prizes.

[–] seaturtle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I read. I don't have much sympathy for him. He sounds like a jerk.

IMO preserving the content is more important than honoring him (or, for that matter, humiliating him).

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't help being curious, who are these "Tolkien Estate" people? I want NAMES!

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

That's Christopher, and he died in 2020. Now it's a few different members of the family plus their attorney.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_Estate

[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey this is a pretty interesting story, got a link?

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What an interesting read!

Thank you so much. Interesting to hear about Stoker's widow, and her going to the courts to pursue a copyright claim.

[–] vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It's a fascinating story. I often wonder how it would of been perceived at a time when copyright wasn't in a post Disney world.

[–] eluvatar@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] waldyrious@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? It's right in the lead section:

Even with several details altered, Stoker's heirs sued over the adaptation, and a court ruling ordered all copies of the film to be destroyed. However, several prints of Nosferatu survived, and the film came to be regarded as an influential masterpiece of cinema and the horror genre.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some older dutch movies were released as rentals to the theaters that had to be returned after they stopped playing the movie. These copies were all destroyed and re-releases on DVD now look worse than what it looked like in movie theatres.

The good news is that some theatres hung on to some movies.

[–] seaturtle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank goodness. Have those copies resurfaced and gone into the possession of proper archivists and/or research collections?

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know how many might be still be around, but I know for a couple of movies where they are. I don't think they have been properly archived and/or converted to digital media yet. I would like to see if there are people in The Netherlands that can do these things and if the current owners of the rolls of film are willing to.