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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is also a total failure to understand that as much as the online community is solidly to the left of democrats, the policies don’t play as well to middle America.

Four decades of moving to the right to (ostensibly) please centrists' notion of middle America, and your poll numbers are dropping against a literal fascist. You need the votes of the left that party leadership hates. We're already funding genocide. How much farther do the right do you suppose we can move?

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Who the hell is "you"? I'm not a Democrat if that's what you think.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I’m not a Democrat if that’s what you think.

Fine. Four decades of moving to the right to (ostensibly) please centrists’ notion of middle America, and Democrats' poll numbers are dropping against a literal fascist. Democrats need the votes of the left that party leadership hates. We’re already funding genocide. How much farther do the right do you suppose we can move?

Now can you try addressing this instead of trying to divert?

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You run too far left and you lost the rust belt. Who are you picking up to replace their votes? Traditionally the play had been to whine about the electoral college and wish we had a different system, but we don't so the question remains.

But as an aside I don't owe you any fucking explanations and in any event I certainly don't speak for the people you're pissed at. I have one agenda here and that's to keep a fascist from taking over. Democrats and Biden are the means to that end. But I don't actually give two shits about party. I enjoy conversations about this stuff. Gives me interesting things to think about and often new perspectives to consider. But the way you are treating me here is not cool and not fun.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You run too far left and you lost the rust belt.

Yeah, unions are super unpopular in the rust belt. It's great how we abandoned them for so long. Moving to the right and away from unions sure helped us there.