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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is just "both sides are equally wrong/bad."

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Idk about equally, but often enough, both sides are indeed wrong.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

"Enlightened centrists". I make fun of you people constantly.

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing wrong with accepting that both sides of anything have good and bad shit going on. I couldn't imagine just blindly following one side 100% even when they can also do questionable stuff.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Sure, but the problem is that rather than arguing the finer points of how to combat climate change, for example, we have to argue about whether truth is truth.

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

There are leftists that get things wrong

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

It makes you look stupid tho

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because you're so blinded by your indoctrination that you can't accept the flaws of "your" side.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

“Climate change exists”

“Religion shouldn’t allow governments to prevent basic healthcare needs”

“January 6 was a failed insurrection”

These are the things that the right calls indoctrination.

And the hard left calls not important enough to bother voting.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe I’m too naive, but I didn’t think they were referring to just politics. They were just referring to two people arguing.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know, I think you're right. I'm so used to the phrase "both sides" meaning a specific thing it didn't register as anything else. If it had been phrased "both sides of an argument" I would have understood.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 11 months ago

Does it normally refer to politics? Maybe for Americans, and they are responsible for a good deal of the English language content online. Right, and the 2 party system...

I'm with you, though, both sides means both sides of an argument. I think the news had something on that a while back- for every climate scientist they interviewed, they had to also interview a climate denier to present a "fair and balanced" view XD