So what we're meaning is how much of Western culture undervalues care-giving since it produces no product, so stay at home moms, nannies, therapists, etc.

I thought of another example. In more nomadic and naturalist cultures, actually doing things to the environment destroys value, while leaving it be and allowing it to recover creates value. That is something else that is not accounted for in any theory of value to my knowledge.

An example would be American Indians in their dependance on foraging and hunting. I think that gives creedance to the idea that they thanked the things they harvested/hunted (I don't know the factuality of that), since from their perspective they were only a burden that the ecosystem was 'kind' enough to support.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thank you for that comment. I feel like finally someone understood what I was trying to get across.

Probably formulated it badly, but still: the answers are a bit exhausting.

EDIT: Thought of another example of your qase where harming nature decreases value. Having to buy carbon certificates for releasing CO2 models the destruction of value by polluting the environment.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Caregivers may not produce a product but they provide a service.

We have no issues with the plumber providing you a service and getting paid well for it, I don't know why we have such a hard time with caregivers... :(