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### About Community Tracking and helping #redditmigration to Kbin and the Fediverse. Say hello to the decentralized and open future. To see latest reeddit blackout info, see here: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery. (kbin.social)
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It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit.

I am also glad that I’m getting away from reddit’s general political shitposting, which was more left leaning. You couldn’t have any proper discourse on there, and even I with my generally more left leaning views recognized that.

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[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Lemmy Devs are tankies

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they don't post about it so who cares?

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They run lemmy.ml and censor people talking negatively about the CCP

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't have that power, they don't control most of the instances, if they do that on their own instances that's up to them. They couldn't even secretly embed anything in the code to push an agenda since it's open source.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have that power on their own instance which is the "official" instance and very popular.

And it just sucks that the software is associated with tankies.

They could silently change their own instance if they wanted to, there has already been some nonsense with them blocking kbin useragents.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no "official instance", it's free software - lemmy.ml isn't even a recommended instance at https://join-lemmy.org .

It's you that's perpetuating that association.

You can't base your software choices on whether or not you agree with their creators political beliefs or else you won't use anything. The creator of Javascript has expressed controversial opinions about same-sex marriage and most of the web uses it.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Come the fuck on buddy.. lol..

Also it's number 1 under popular on that page.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because it's a popular instance.

Feel free to use what you like, of course, that's the beauty of the fediverse, but I don't understand what you're hung up about now having explained it to you.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

This is one of their announcement posts.

Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.

Posting this in light of a recent one week Reddit ban I earned for shitting on US police, as I'm sure many of us have gotten in recent weeks.

So I've spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it's pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.

Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are, so we should never abandon Reddit entirely, but it's been clear to all of us from day one, that communities like this stand on unsteady ground, and could be banned or quarantined at any moment by the white supremacist Reddit admins. This would be both a backup and a potentially better alternative. Moderation abilities are there, as well as a slur filter.

Raddle isn't an option obviously since it's run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

I wanted to ask ppl here if they'd like me to host an instance, and mod all the current mods here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

I really don't think it's a wild stretch to say that the people who run an instance that is moderated with a clear political agenda, who actively say that their intent is to promote that agenda, and who are officially promoting that instance in their capacity as developers - are in fact doing so in order to promote that agenda.

But hey, maybe that's a reach.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So don't use Lemmy.ml?

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't, still sucks that the Lemmy devs are tankies and censor people.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's an open source, open contribution project. It has one maintainer who's confused being angry at the capitalist class with a call to reflexively defend people who use the word "communism" to justify whatever they want, but he's not "the devs".

No none seems to care when for-profit projects are backed by the slime of the Earth. Actual fascist Peter Thiel financially backed Reddit a decade ago, and people didn't care. And Tencent, with actual and direct ties to the CCP has been a major investor in Reddit for years now.

Reddit ran off of the direct support of white supremacists, anti-democracy advocates, and CCP supporters, and none of that was an issue for anyone until spez got stupid with some small developers.

The tankie guy's political influence will be miniscule in the long run. You can't say that about Thiel's or Tencent's.

[–] Maxcoffee@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On their own instance, that they run. So again, who cares?

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sucks that the official instance from the devs of the software denies human rights violations and supports authoritarian governments.

That should not be where people land when looking for a reddit alternative.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the "official instance", though. There isn't an "official instance."

They're the devs that got the software started, but anyone can be a dev or fork the repository. Or write a new compatible server from scratch, like kbin.

[–] Maxcoffee@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

We're not even using their software now. It shows the power of open source that all of this can coexist peacefully despite differing opinions.

[–] dukethorion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I keep hearing this, and I still don't care. Being from America, I've never even heard that term.

Reddit was run by a capitalist corporation. In America, the Left should hate that, but most of Reddit was decidedly liberal.

See? It doesn't matter. Use the platform or don't. Block what you don't want to see. People are going to post different opinions in public spaces.

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks to the beauty of both open source models and activitypub, the fact that the lead developer is a tankie does not affect Lemmy users in any way because their sphere of influence ends at lemmygrad and lemmy.ml . If you're a user of those instances and want out, you can just create another account in another instance and still can access any communities you want.