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How I Remade Tony Hawk's Underground in Unreal 5 (www.youtube.com)
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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Eh, it's a POC, I highly doubt they'll finish it and try to monetize it. They just want to show what's possible with a small amount of work.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not even talking about monetization, just that they're making and announcing something that is obviously DMCA-bait. Even the video could be taken down without consequence (even if it didn't have monetization enabled, also the corp could force enable and get the money). This is a common thing that happens and it seems completely pointless and easy to avoid (again, even just plausible deniability/under-the-radar level).

If somebody was going to make a video cooking something "just for fun"/learning, I'd also say they should still try to be mindful of food safety rather than saying "if I get food poisoning, I can deal with that. Don't do-as-I-do".

Or in other words, just have some discretion.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Shhhh, go lay down and have a rest.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm no lawyer, but I don't see anything here that violates fair use. I see:

  • short clips from the game - they are a very small portion of the video, so it's fair use
  • deobfuscation of game files - this has been decided in the courts as fair use; the law draws the line at breaking encryption
  • modification of copyrighted files - the law has consistently defended modification for personal use and draws the line at redistribution
  • no redistribution

The channel has 80 subs and two videos, so I'm guessing the creator doesn't even have access to monetization, so there's no financial concern here. So I see absolutely no cause for concern in this video. If they were using decrypted files, then I could see an issue with the DMCA encryption provisions.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why I said without consequence. By that I specifically meant that a takedown could be used no matter the context. Non-infringing videos are often taken down and often people don't even fight it because doing so can result in strikes.

Most people probably aren't going to fight anything in court let alone compete with an expensive team of lawyers, so they aren't ever going to get even the slightest pushback if they overstep things. That's why I say it's better to distance yourself from trademarks as much as possible.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but this would have to get popular enough that the devs care enough to issue a strike. I highly doubt Activision/Microsoft is going to bother, and if they did, I don't think the name of the video is going to matter much, if it gets popular enough, they'll hear about it either way.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

I mean often times they just have a script that looks for the trademarked terms (or in some cases, visual matches, or music for video), so it does matter using such things. At least when something it released, if it's largely original work using trademarked names/logos is an easy way to shoot yourself in the foot (and can result in very early detection).

I also doubt takedowns are usually a higher-up hearing about said projects and "ordering the strike" (probably just that it popped up on an automated/intern-ran script), that's why I think even the easiest changes would be good to do. Because they probably aren't ever going to see Jimmy Eagle even if it were uploaded and popular.

The video part isn't really important to my point, just the general idea that involving trademarked stuff is basically a multiplier for risk. Some simple changes and fans will still see what it is and like it, scripts won't. And people fail to see this too often, so I don't think people should encourage it because "it's probably fine".

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m reading “Person of Color” from POC and I’m fairly sure that’s not what you mean.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Proof Of Concept.

Basically, it's not intended to ever be distributed to anyone else, it just shows what's possible.