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Given the current state of partisan polarization, it’s unlikely Biden can get majority job approval next year even with the most fortunate set of circumstances. But the good news for him is that he probably doesn’t have to. Job-approval ratings are crucial indicators in a normal presidential reelection cycle that is basically a referendum on the incumbent’s record. Assuming Trump is the Republican nominee, 2024 will not be a normal reelection cycle for three reasons.

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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You push the Democratic Party candidate to the left. Supporting Republicans (which is what you're doing if you don't vote for Joe Biden, full stop) isn't going to help anyone and won't get you better candidates in the future. It will literally have the opposite effect. There's a great batch of possible candidates for 2028 (Witmer, Shapiro, Newsome, etc). Sure I'd prefer them over Biden for 2024 but they're not running.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Supporting Republicans (which is what you’re doing if you don’t vote for Joe Biden, full stop)

"Vote red no matter who, because Dems are worse" is how trump became the face of the Republican party...

If the Dem party's only standard is "there's a D next to their name" we'll gonna keep getting shitty candidates that lose half the elections to republicans. And even when they do win, nothing gets fixed.

Normally I'd push for primary participation and then begrudgingly voting for the winner of the primary.

But we don't even get a primary because a private organization controls that, and they decided we don't get one.

Will I still vote for Joe?

Sure, I've voted for every single shitty D candidate in the general since I turned 18. But telling people to just shut up and stop complaining about how fucked it is won't fix anything. Hasn't for decades.

And pretending that shitty milk toast candidates don't depress turnout and give Republicans a chance, is like asking why poor people don't just make more money. But you're not going to reach that 1/3 of eligible voters on a political sub on a fringe social media website

The absolute easiest way to get them to vote, is run a good candidate.

So how about you spend your effort communicating that to the Democratic party? That might actually accomplish something....

Although, they're probably just say "shut up and vote for me, at least I'm not a Republican".