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YouTube’s Loaded With EV Disinformation::When it comes to articles on a website like CleanTechnica, there are two kinds of articles. First, there are the ... [continued]

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 77 points 11 months ago (47 children)

To be fair EVs only solve the tail pipe emission problem of cars and not like the 50 others. It's would be much better to focus on public transit and pedestrian and bike infrastructure, that solves more issues and is accessible to everyone.

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

To be fair EVs only solve the tail pipe emission problem

Gotta start somewhere. At least I can say that I'm part of the solution and that I am not one of the negative nellies who don't do squat because they cannot find the ONE solution that solves everything.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

gotta start somewhere

Then start with vastly increasing the amount of bicycle Infrastructure so that people can safely use their bike to go to schools, work, home, buy groceries. Give subsidies to buy bikes for even less money than they cost anyway, increase taxes on shit cars like pick tricks that nobody needs in a city setting

Invest heavily in public transportation. Make busses actually useful, start making an actual rail infrastructure in the US instead of... Whatever that turtle crap is you have now.

Same for walking, which would require overhauling urbanisation laws, granted, but still, that would also make your cities actually nice to live in.

If you think that all is an impossibly expensive job then please be reminded that gasoline is heavily subsidized and bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure costs pennies on the dollar compared to car infrastructure.

Biggest issue is stopping the oil and car manufacturer lobbyists who will all stop all of this. Why have nice cities that make big money and recover your environment if thateans that a couple of rich guys will get less rich?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

An individual cannot do any of that. The best they can do is vote. Buying an EV on top of that to limit their own impact is a separate issue.

[–] legofreak@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The transition from EVs to public transit, biking, etc has to come eventually, too. We can however already do that and places have successfully done so. Look at the Netherlands for example. EVs are in the way of transitioning to better public infrastructure and will only delay it.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Ev don't exist to protect the environment. They exist to protect the car companies.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not but the "ONE solution that solves everything" is already here. It's right in the comment you responded to. Not only does public transport and bike infrastructure cut massively down on CO2 it also helps with mental health as we aren't constantly 10+ miles away from each other but we also aren't getting constantly frustrated with driving or isolated. And not to mention with having everyone closer together wel also have room for car guys to hoon about in race tracks. And because ideally the only people driving would be car guys they'd be quite the minority and the emissions from that would be minimal anyway. There's almost 0 downsides to walkable cities. Even car guys have something to gain from this. Well finally get to the point that we can focus on the CO2 dumps that are airplanes.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is what I keep saying, as a gear head. So many people who like cars hate public transport, but they don't understand that getting people who don't like to drive off the roads would only make driving better. Also, the only roads that might (and should) close would be in city centers, places it sucks to drive anyways.

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