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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I legitimately don't understand why you would want to hold someone hostage if they don't want to be with you. Ignore the whole human rights issue... Unless you are an actual sadistic sociopath why would you want to subject yourself to another person's misery like that, instead of going out and seeking mutual happiness?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Unless you are an actual sadistic sociopath

You answered your own question. To conservatives, a spouse is merely another piece along your way to the "traditional family". And that is explicitly your (the royal you) way. How dare that piece have the audacity to remove itself from your carefully laid plans. Doesn't it know you have a wholesome image to maintain? Though it's nothing a little "discipline" won't fix.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For some, women and children are things, not people.

My terrible grandfather was like that. Abusive to everyone in the household, stole my grandmother's income, and when winter rolled around he'd disappear until spring to who knows where leaving my grandmother and kids to fend for themselves. He literally tried to kill one of my uncles just because he could (tried to run him over with a tractor).

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not just that, but marriage to them is a prize they won, not something they did as a partner. And once they won their prize, they can do anything they want with it.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Free labor in the house (cook clean etc), sex (rape at that point), punching bag, etc.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

Some of it stems from religious zealotry (marriage is sacred and permanent).

Some of it is a misguided attempt at rectify the 'single parent' problem, believing that two unhappy parents is better than one parent divorced.

Essentially if you make divorce harder, more couples will be forced to work through their disagreements and reconcile.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about holding someone hostage. A lot of breadwinners would let their spouse walk if they didn't take half of the breadwinner's savings with them.

The rest of it is all fluff...the core of this issue is money.

[–] TechAnon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The core of the issue also can include child custody, but I agree with you in that money is also a huge core issue.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people don't see happiness as valuable.

Some people only value the harm they inflict on others.