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[–] MudMan@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that entire franchise's fanbase needs a sanity check for a reason, it's for that.

I know they look cool and they're easy to paint because of all the flat surfaces, but come on.

It's fine for your dark fantasy setting to have no good guys. It's EXTREMELY not fine for your dark fantasy theocratic racists to become the good guys and for you to do nothing to stop it from happening.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There might be underlying problems with our collective psyche. We seem to gravitate towards strong figures clouded in religious myths.

Also, I'm a Wagh kinda guy myself. Nuthen beetz a gud ol' krumpin'.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly, the Orks may be the most intellectually honest faction in that whole mess. They mostly just like to fight and think everybody else is a dick. And they're right.

But nah, when teenage me came to the idea of haughty, elitist space elves in hoverbikes there was never any other option. But they're not the good guys. Nobody should be the good guys in that. ESPECIALLY not the human factions.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That might be where most people have a problem. This may be completely anecdotal, but it seems a majority of people want things to be black and white. They want their villians easily identifiable, they want their heroes as pure as the first oxygen molecule. That may be why a lot of fans seem to choose the Space Marines as the "good guys" in a galaxy where there are none. I'll never understand it cause its boring, put that yin in my yang and vice versa. I want stained heroes and misguided antagonists. I want a pain in my heart as it tries to decide who to root for.

[–] Rokk@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like when I dipped my toes into the lore the Tau seemed the closest to good guys that I could find but I don't know it well

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Those are even after my time. From the outside it looked like them starting to step away from "fantasy races in space", but it didn't intrigue me enough to pay attention and they never really became the core of the videogames because space marines everywhere, so...