this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2023
629 points (95.5% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

26660 readers
3407 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Neither is Apple or Microsoft. What's your point?

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Both Microsoft and Apple sell t-shirts, in fact.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that's why they do branding?

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They do it so that you'll carry over your positive impressions with the products you've used, to the new products they want to sell you. You like the Apple Mac, so you think you'll like the Apple iPhone.

But Twitter just has the one product and it'll always have just the one product. They're not making a second product, ever. There's nothing to transfer a favorable impression to. So what's the "value" of Twitter as a brand, distinct from Twitter as an app? All Twitter is is an app.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The same value as Coca-Cola has. They don't have any new products to sell you, everyone knows what Coca-Cola tastes like and no one is switching from Coke to Pepsi because they saw an ad.

They do it because keeping a brand in the public consciousness is itself a value to a company.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They don't have any new products to sell you

What? No, Coca-cola has new products every fucking year. Several times a year. Literally two months ago they launched "Coca-Cola Y3000 Zero Sugar", a flavor supposedly created by "AI". And just knowing that Coca-Cola launched it, you probably have an idea what it tastes like. That's what branding does. But Twitter doesn't do any of that, because again, they don't launch new products. They have one product and they'll always have one product.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My point, which I though was obvious, was why does Coca-Cola advertise their main product that they never change except for one ill-advised try in the 1980s? What does it benefit them to have those ads?

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My point, which I though was obvious, was why does Coca-Cola advertise their main product that they never change except for one ill-advised try in the 1980s?

So that they can sell you all of the 20-odd other flavors, based on your favorable impressions of the Coca-Cola brand as a whole. Have you just not been fucking listening at all?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the point you are missing in both cases is that the so-called customer is not who they are advertising to. In Coca-Cola's case, they are advertising to investors. In Twitter's case especially, they are advertising to potential advertising customers and data mining organizations.

You are not Twitter's customer. They don't care whether or not you exist.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the point you are missing in both cases is that the so-called customer is not who they are advertising to. In Coca-Cola's case, they are advertising to investors.

You just keep saying different things and then acting like that's what you've been saying "the whole time", but this is literally the first time you've introduced "investors" into it.

But that's also nonsense. Coca-Cola doesn't need to buy ads during the Superbowl to talk to their investors; they already have a mailing address for literally every Coca-Cola shareholder. Every publicly-traded company does. When Coca-Cola wants to tell you, the shareholder, something, they just host a phone call and, like, tell you with their mouths. They do this once a quarter, in fact, if not more frequently.

Aren't you embarrassed about being wrong all the time?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay, you obviously can't talk to me without being hostile, so I don't think I'm willing to continue this conversation. I'm not interested in Reddit behavior. Goodbye.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

You think I was rude, but that's just because I'm objecting to the Gish Gallop of idiocy you're bringing to this. If you'd stuck to one point and tried to argue it in good faith, that would have been something.