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Sen. Mitt Romney Says He Would Vote For 'Virtually' Anybody Other Than Trump or Ramaswamy
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Define good
edit: I’d say yes, but there’s a spectrum of expectations
good as in being able to balance the budget while keeping inflation low and helping people, all people, earn a living wage, fight for education so we can start exporting engineers and doctors who get money abroad and spend it in the US, instead of importing them, make healthcare care and homes affordable. Last president who balanced the budget was Clinton, I believe, and home costs have been going through the roof after the pandemic. Engineers and doctors are coming from Asia. The military is the last good thing but the cost is very high.
But I think I agree with you, expectations is what drives the votes.
Okay, everything is incremental (and no one politician can do everything by themselves), but Obama's platform was Healthcare reform, and he got that done, just not as much as we wanted. But it still made Healthcare more affordable for the low and low/middle classes, and it established regulations on what must be covered and made businesses with full-time workers responsible to give health insurance. Is it everything we could hope for? No. Was it better than what was before it? Yes. He still had a ton of things against him (renewing PATRIOT Act, drone-striking a bunch of children, not supporting LGBTQ+ people until it was a foregone conclusion, etc), but he helped with Healthcare.
Biden and Democrats have tried to institute student loan forgiveness (and been fought against at every corner). They are constantly fighting against the dismantling of the education system by the Republicans, and I'd say holding the line is an achievement in itself (though they kind of suck at holding lines). And inflation has slowed dramatically over the past several months (under Biden), largely due to efforts put in place in the past that are only now bearing fruit.
So yes, some politicians have been doing some good, and the perfect is the enemy of the good. If your expectations for what would be considered a "good" politician is to single-handedly fix all the problems that you personally take issue with, no politician will ever be "good."
Then no.
edit: I would consider that an exemplary, holy-shit-how-did-you-manage-this-without-outlawing-Republicanism job.