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Texas State Rep. James Talarico using biblical scripture to tear down conservative Christian arguments

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

What do you call people who don’t follow the Bible?

Answer - Christians

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Jesus was a poor, brown skinned, socialist, Middle-Eastern, Jewish, pacifist hippie who advocated for paying taxes, supporting the poor, forgiving criminals, giving your money away to charity, and practicing nonviolence all while hanging out with a bunch of other men and prostitutes.

If the second coming happened today Christians would crucify him again before the weekend was over.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No he wasn't. He didn't exist.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most people assume he did and there's evidence for it, but there really isn't. It's just an assumption that's convenient for Christians to push. There actually is almost no historical evidence for it.

You're currently downvoted because this assumption has been pushed very hard, and it's not totally unfounded. I have no more reason to trust it than I do to trust that Santa was real. There's far too much desire to create evidence for me to bother with it. I don't believe he wasn't real either. I just don't entertain either idea. It doesn't change anything whichever is true. He wasn't the son of God regardless.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Virtually all scholars agree that a Jewish man named Jesus of Nazareth did exist in Palestine in the 1st century CE.[1][7][8][note 1] Scholars regard the question of historicity as generally settled in scholarship in the early 20th century."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#:~:text=Virtually%20all%20scholars%20agree%20that%20a%20Jewish%20man%20named%20Jesus,in%20the%20early%2020th%20century.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/

Something being considered settled doesn't really prove anything. Many thing have been considered settled and been totally wrong. If they're settling it with insufficient evidence, then I don't really care to believe it. If it requires a leap of faith instead of logic, then it isn't good enough in my opinion. I'll continue not having a belief in him existing or not.

[–] Skiff@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

What do you call people who have actually read the Bible?

Atheists.