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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why should Joe Shmoe who’s family fortune is based off mafia and cartel funds get to have say in your company? Just because of the money?

Yes. Becasue it is Joe Shmoe's money that funds the company while it builds the product. Without the money, there is no product.

I think it’s less about going public

Going public is a big issue, that is how Joe Shmoe gets his payback. He is the one pushing for the IPO so they can get paid.

Once that happens, the founders lose what little control they had, the control is always with the people that supply the money in the end.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Right I get it, money is needed for growth.

But maybe we just don’t need to grow so much. What if we let that excess need (due to lack of supply) spill over into competition with people who also don’t want the whole public traded, board room setup?

Idk taking the money out of business seems impossible no matter how you cut it. Maybe more self hosted and crowd hosted stuff is one solution? What are your thoughts in terms of solutions?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have no idea how we move forward.

Maybe more self hosted and crowd hosted stuff is one solution?

Currently private finding rounds hinge on convincing a few people who control millions to fund you. Part of that is showing them often highly confidential details of what you are trying to create.

Crowd finding would be much. much more difficult. Now you have to convince millions of people to give you funding, possibly exposing you to having your ideas stolen before you can develop them.

Now you have to convince millions of people to give you funding

There are examples of people doing this. Cooperatives can be owned by the workers or by the customers. They're usually cheaper too.

They don't have the "move fast and break things" mentality however because by nature they don't have a billionaire sponsors, so it's harder to complete in a venture capitalist world. It's when big money dries up, like the great depression, when you'll see them popping up.

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