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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Ah yes, the, "I destroyed your room and took your xbox over a gram of weed." parenting strategy. This has never once ever resulted in people utterly despising their parents for being overbearing tyrants...

The blame for 12000 Gaza civilians dying in response to 1000 Israelis is 100% on Israel.

After it's all said and done, is it the side that killed more civilians the correct side?

[–] shanie@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

12,000 Gaza civilians... so far.

And just to add, Israel could have used this event to strengthen themselves on the world stage, to instead use covert systems to do their work (since they appear to have had been doing zero of that) instead of flattening city blocks and be internationally recognized as being under attack, worthy of those Stars they so brazenly wore, and Hamas being denounced worldwide. Instead they have become the bad guys, falling right into Hamas' hands.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's because the goal was always genocide. The Israeli government needs Hamas to justify their genocide. They could have handled things more elegantly but if they did that then they wouldn't have gotten to murder thousands of Palestinians. They aren't falling into Hamas' hands; they are using Hamas as a tool to justify a genocide that they have been working towards for years now.

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The Israeli government initially supported Hamas when they were elected because the political infighting helped them.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To say anything is 100% either side's fault tells me You're not really thinking about the situation.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Israel has the military might and the control. They're running the world's biggest open air prison.

By now, this conflict is ABSOLUTELY on Israel. Completely. Yes, they might still get attacked, but then it'd be a sovreign nation being attacked by terrorists instead of involuntary prisoners lashing out.

Israel is fully and completely responsible for those 12000+ civilian deaths in Gaza. Period.

Again, is the side that killed more civilians by the end of it the good guys?