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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So putting aside the fact that this language is not supposed to be a practical endeavor, I don't think that issue would apply. قلب does not have alternative, localized names, it only exists in Arabic script

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but I think the principle still holds.

When I talk about a "print", "if", "for" or "while" I am universally understood by the majority of coders. This means, someone with those concepts can use any logic flow making use of those terms with a minimum of learning.

However, if I speak of "gable", "gyr" or "wabbajack", then trouble begins, for now I have no tutorials nor guides. Let us say these are not merely localisations, but new concepts, then the question comes of completeness and how it is proved.

In essence, one either recreates Babel, where no two people can understand one another, and collaboration quickly slips away. Or, one builds a tower upon the sand, that has no logical foundation to anchor it, this rendering it worse than useless to those who learn it.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That I believe is part of the point, to explore the unconsidered privilege we have as an english speaker, or any langauge like english, or even any language with latin letters

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, an artistic expression saying "you must learn our language, see how it feels for you to subvert your culture to do something needful"?

Hardly an avant-garde notion today, but in 2010 it may well have been.

I can appreciate the beauty of what was created, though I suspect it failed to move people in the way it was intended. To me, it seems an illogical step backwards, rather than a meaningful stride forwards, as I see it from a pedagogical perspective. Others may disagree, but such is art.