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[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except they literally are, looking at the US. I’m European and I see most right-wing European politicians as just “assholes I disagree with”, but the US Republicans are literally cartoon villains at this point. Like, Trump would get labeled as unrealistic if he was an antagonist in a remotely adult-oriented movie.

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And Europeans are anti-trans bigots who have begun limiting gender affirming care to minors. What's your point?

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s not all Europeans, and it also applies to most American Republicans. Whataboutism is already weak as an argument, at least mention an issue the US don’t have as well (not that I can come up with any, honestly)

[–] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Obviously it's not ALL Europeans. No country in the world is a monolith. The governments, however, ARE representative of the general will of the people. The fact that the governments of Europe (again who are representative of the people) are backpedaling on gender affirming care and pausing things like hormone replacement therapy, gender reassignment surgery, and shutting down gender clinics indicates to me that the general will of the people in Europe is one of transphobia.

"Most American Republicans" are in the minority and NOT representative of the will of the people as indicated by the fact that our current administration is Democrat. We also affirm trans individuals by allowing widespread access to gender affirming care, flying the trans flag on public buildings, and highlighting trans individuals in mainstream media.

For the record, my argument was not a "whataboutism", but yours in fact was.