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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Can someone explain me this? In Argentina, the majority of the workers are employed by government (crazy rate of employment by a government, I don't think they actually need all those people), but then the majority of the voters elect someone that plans to cut spending a lot, meaning most of those workers that voted him will be laid off.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 10 months ago

Make Argentina Great Again.

Sad to see people fall for the same bullshit over and over.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can we theorize a situation where an average Argentinian voter consciously chooses a short term crisis with the prospect of normalization over a lifetime stagnation and decay? Argentina's economy was shit for a long time, and maybe people's intent is to wreck things for a change?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People forget accelerationists exist... I doubt Trump would have won without them.

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know they're out there, but there can't be a significant enough bloc of them to swing things. I've never encountered one outside of the internet, and even on the internet they mostly seem to be acting facetiously.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

I know tons of them IRL. They just said things like this country is already shit? What's the worse thing that happens, Trump burns everything down? That's what we need to happen anyway to move forward.

I have heard that sentiment a lot.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you have any evidence that a significant number of voters have ever voted for short-term harm to enable some hypothetical future benefit?

[–] snake_case_guy@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 months ago

2015 elections. Actually, 2015 elections are a better example than this. Argentina wasn't half as bad as now. And people in the most important place (Conurban region) view for the change, because there was a solution that was not peronism. Unfortunately, Macri let everyone down with his gradualism strategy, instead of a shock strategy. That's why the peronism came back.

I'm simplifying a lot of stuff, there are other reasons for everything. Like Cristina's legal issues, the kirchnerist party corruption, and the sort. In the same vein, Macri's lack of boldness in some cases created a crisis of its own.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

You really think the average and below person is going to be able go make that connection?