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Next smartphone I buy, which one do you recommend? (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I don't want any of it!

Next phone I buy I want to start with a clean slate, I'm not going to affiliate with any conglomerate like Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile etc, I prefer to go rogue somehow,

which smartphone do you recommend that has no bloatware and it's customizable?

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A Google Pixel running GrapheneOS is your best option. Graphene doesn't have any Google services by default, no bloatware at all, maximum privacy and security. It's super easy to install, you can check out this video guide or just read their official documentation.

Another video about GrapheneOS that I totally recommend: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yTeAFoQnQPo

I recommend this after the install: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BymH90zFe30

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

How well does apps that require locked bootloaders, non-rooted device etc. work on grapheneOS? We have an official 2FA app in my country that's used for digital identification for everything from banking to social security services. Right now it isn't working on my oneplus 9p with lineage, despite using magisk and passing safetynet check, because it still detects that my phone is rooted.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS is built to work with a locked bootloader, in fact, relocking the bootloader is a step in the installation guide. It's not rooted by default and the GOS team highly recommends against rooting, all apps should work as long as they only require SafetyNet basic integrity. If they require full integrity, they won't work on GrapheneOS because the OS has to be manually whitelisted by Google in order to pass the full integrity check. Most apps (including banking or government apps) only mandate basic integrity though, full integrity is rarely required. It should definitely work better than LineageOS.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm, my lineage OS phone passes basic integrity check, and my banking apps all work as intended, as do other government apps. But this damn 2FA app is still complaining and refuses to work, saying the phone is insecure.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that's because your phone is rooted. By default you can't get root on GrapheneOS so it should work there.