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I am still playing around with Lemmy like I am sure a lot of people are. I have accounts on multiple instances to see how things are and what not.

I understand why beehaw decided to defederate with .world, I just didn't think much about the consequence of it after it happened. Today I was browsing the !anime@lemmy.ml from my beehaw account and looked at the same from my this .ml account and realized I am missing so posts.. Any user from .world posting a discussion thread for an anime I watch from, I can't participate in..

I could create my own discussion post about the anime, but now there are two posts going about the same thing. beehaw users would be able to see and participate in this now, but every other instance will see two posts. Duplicating the same thing and splitting the discussion unnecessarily.

I love the power, control, and principles behind Lemmy and the wider fediverse, its just something that is annoying me at the moment. Its amazing for taking care of spam instances (70k users with no posts? yea right), but when one large/popular instance spanks another, it can be problematic. Thinking of maybe self hosting (which I am no stranger to) as a way to avoid an issue like this in future.

Still like Lemmy and wanting to push through these "quirks", but just wanted to vent a little.

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[–] hydralisk@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is also another concern of mine for self hosting. I know the fediverse is facing a massive bot problem right now and some suggestions of doing whitelists or blacklists to help combat this, so having my own private instance could even be a worse move in the near future.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, hosting your own Lemmy instance will quickly turn into the equivalent of running your own mail server. It's just not something you want to deal with because you'll spend hours dealing with blacklists, spam, government requests and other BS.

I'm sure things will stabilise and servers will emerge that get the balance between moderation, federation and uptime right, and then you can migrate to their instance and set up a recurring donation to pay for what it would cost you to run your own server.

That depends. I think a one user instance as jumping point to the fediverse won't be too much hassle.

[–] master@lem.serkozh.me 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s just not something you want to deal with because you’ll spend hours dealing with blacklists, spam, government requests and other BS.

What should I do to get all these? Am I hosting my mail server in a wrong way?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're running a mail server and you never had any issues with delivery because your IP address ended up in a blacklist?

[–] master@lem.serkozh.me 1 points 1 year ago

I think it was in UCEPROTECT-Level2 or UCEPROTECT-Level3 a couple of times, but it wasn't an issue because these are a subnet and ASN level blacklists that offer paid "whitelisting", so no sane person uses these abominations anyway. My emails can sometimes end up in a Spam folder for whatever reason, but I don't recall ever having them completely bounced.